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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 03:43 PM
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Just received email from Connell Chevrolet in Costa Mesa, CA. Auctioning off two Z06 with minimum bid of 50k over MSRP. I wish Chevrolet would be tougher with dealers on this sort of thing.
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Mary Barra doesn’t remember how GM went broke and needed a bailout from the taxpayers.
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Nothing will change.... Earnhart is asking $80K over for an Escalade V.... Just say no...
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Originally Posted by tahoemark
Just received email from Connell Chevrolet in Costa Mesa, CA. Auctioning off two Z06 with minimum bid of 50k over MSRP. I wish Chevrolet would be tougher with dealers on this sort of thing.
Ya gotta pay to play.
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 03:53 PM
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Chevy does not have a problem with ADMs if the dealers are up front about it.
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Mary Barra doesn’t remember how GM went broke and needed a bailout from the taxpayers.
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"If anyone is interested, there are three Z06 3LT convertibles selling tomorrow...

Vin 00258. red mist/black

vin 00264, black/natural dipped

vin 00266. torch red/black

It will be by a sealed bid auction, bank credit line verification required (perhaps today) with the bids closing tomorrow."
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nuary-4-a.html
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 04:06 PM
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Spending that kind of money on any GM product is throwing money down the drain. Now that interest rates are up where they are, the prices are not going to hold. Anyone who pays a 100k over on a Z06 will probably lose a 100k in one year. At the end of the day the Z06 will cost you more in depreciation than a Ferrari or a Porsche at these markups.
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfryer527
Mary Barra doesn’t remember how GM went broke and needed a bailout from the taxpayers.
I am pretty sure selling cars way below current market value isn't the key to financial success for GM. At the moment, market value for Z06 is 50-100K over MSRP. I have no idea why you think GM would be upset at dealers that are up front about pricing and maximizing their profit. I understand it is not ideal when you can't financially afford the vehicle you desire. Z06 is certainly priced out of my pay grade at this time! But that is the nature of a free market economy...
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Thats how its been since announcement. I talked to a dealer who told me MSRP until some guy came along and offered them 50k for the spot. Money talks and if they can get the 50k over easily they are gonna do so. Most cars these days are marked up to some extent.
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Even Corollas have sold at MSRP+ADM in the current market.
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tahoemark
Just received email from Connell Chevrolet in Costa Mesa, CA. Auctioning off two Z06 with minimum bid of 50k over MSRP. I wish Chevrolet would be tougher with dealers on this sort of thing.
No one's forcing you to pay over MSRP for a Z06. They are just selling "their" Z06s at market value. As long as they do it in an upfront manner, there's nothing wrong with it.
Many are purchasing Z06s at MSRP. All it took is a little foresight and patience. I will have mine at MSRP in a couple years and will enjoy my C8 Z51 until then.
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Capitalism at its BEST or WORSE?
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Originally Posted by Fishfryer527
Mary Barra doesn’t remember how GM went broke and needed a bailout from the taxpayers.
ADM has nothing to do with it. The dealership purchased the Z06 & GM got their money.
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ADM has nothing to do with it. The dealership purchased the Z06 & GM got their money.
ADM has everything to do with it. The car can command a higher price. This policy of allowing dealers to charge what the market will bear and not GM charging market price takes money away from the corporation for higher salaries, bonuses, R&D, as well As dividended and higher share price to the shareholders.

GM aid giving away the added monies that a higher selling price could bring. GM DID NOT GET THEIR MONEY, the dealer got it. GM designed and built the car, all the dealer does is hand them out, ie NOTHING.

Mary Barra is foolish, the shareholders should sue, taxpayers (customers) got screwed.

When GM goes broke again, let their dealers bail them out.

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Originally Posted by Fishfryer527
ADM has everything to do with it. The car can command a higher price. This policy of allowing dealers to charge what the market will bear and not GM charging market price takes money away from the corporation for higher salaries, bonuses, R&D, as well As dividended and higher share price to the shareholders.

GM aid giving away the added monies that a higher selling price could bring. GM DID NOT GET THEIR MONEY, the dealer got it. GM designed and built the car, all the dealer does is hand them out, ie NOTHING.

Mary Barra is foolish, the shareholders should sue, taxpayers (customers) got screwed.

When GM goes broke again, let their dealers bail them out.
You don't really understand how any of this works. GM set the price they needed for the car based on forecasted orders, based on probably years of data. They already know there will end up being less orders for this car than previous generations based on the increase base price (thus the large price hike). As the price goes up, the number of potential buyers goes down.

You set the base price at $150k when you still have at least 2 more Corvette variants slated, you shoot yourself in the foot. Not only on Z06 sales, but on the next 2 variants. It's good they don't have you making business decisions
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Why should GM get tough on dealers only to have customers turn around and sell them for a healthy profit?
Its also the flippers who screwed it for everyone.
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by golddog
Why should GM get tough on dealers only to have customers turn around and sell them for a healthy profit?
Its also the flippers who screwed it for everyone.
So, it is ok for the dealer to make 50-100K over MSRP, but the buyer can not even sell the car within 6 months or the GM warranty will be voided to the person he or she sells to? Sounds like GM could care less about the ultimate customer and favor the dealer!
Also...it is not the flippers ruining things, if the dealers were all selling at MSRP there would be no flippers!
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Even if the dealers were all selling at MSRP there still would be flippers making a profit as long as demand far surpasses supply.
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Hardly new... and, no one who is collecting the money cares what we think (as long as someone is willing to fork it over), least of all GM having real qualms about their dealers. Did you read the wimpy GM response to such two or three years ago?
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Here's the thing about most of the folks who are willing to pay 50-100k over sticker... They don't care because they can afford not to care, they aren't playing the same game as the average buyer. Interest rates don't mean **** when you pay cash, depreciation doesn't mean **** if you want the car bad enough. Its hard for the average person to understand because we aren't all playing the same game in life. To some folks 50k is pocket money. The dealers know this, and gladly will exploit it.

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