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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 01:13 PM
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More 'chest pounding' by the UAW..... Of course with the recent 40% wage gains that unions for both UPS and American Airlines scored, I'm sure that the UAW says it's time we got the same or better. As usual, the consumers will pay.....
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That is opportunity knocking. UPS drivers heard it. The UAW certainly hears it. Record car sales. Record profits. Record low inventory at dealers. Record salary for Ms. Barra. The time is right and GM is ripe for the picket. I'd judge it 99.9% they are gone September 15th.

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Originally Posted by blackvetterzo6
so your saying GM keeps working if they strike somewhere else, I don’t think that’s how the UAW works. Have no idea but strike one plant and the union strikes them all. This would mean all GM employees would actually work while there brothers and sisters strike, kind of defeats the whole purpose.
That's exactly how it works. In 2019, the UAW went on strike against GM. Ford and Chrysler kept producing vehicles. GM plants were shutdown.
Old Aug 25, 2023 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by papillion
That is opportunity knocking. UPS drivers heard it. The UAW certainly hears it. Record car sales. Record profits. Record low inventory at dealers. Record salary for Ms. Barra. The time is right and GM is ripe for the picket. I'd judge it 99.9% they are gone September 15th.

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How did GM have record profit?
Could it be that too many people have too good of a credit rating or have alot of extra cash laying around to purchase a new $80,000 silverado during a national pandemic?
Old Aug 25, 2023 | 01:41 PM
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Well now its official. Let the waiting, arguing and lunacy begin. And of course the resulting increase in prices of all.
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I read they will pick Stellantis. They picked GM last time.
Old Aug 25, 2023 | 02:17 PM
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I read they will pick Stellantis. They picked GM last time.
This is my only real hope in all this. My TPW is 9/18.
Old Aug 25, 2023 | 02:36 PM
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Ridiculous to a non union member
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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 02:56 PM
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Ridiculous to a non union member
I agree with you - ridiculous to anyone that works for a living.

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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 03:18 PM
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Well, the unions know that the person who lives in a big white house on Pennslyvania ave isn't going to pull an 80s air traffic control deal on them, so that gives them more leverage.

Can't wait to see what the 2025 cars are going to cost!


Old Aug 25, 2023 | 03:25 PM
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The strike at the GM plants is due to middle class workers such as GM employees being crowed out by inflation. Majority of Americans can not afford many things including high priced cars. Used car market will flourish during these tough times. Average Corvette buyer will just cough up some more of their retirement pay to buy higher priced cars.
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Originally Posted by See8
Well, the unions know that the person who lives in a big white house on Pennslyvania ave isn't going to pull an 80s air traffic control deal on them, so that gives them more leverage.

Can't wait to see what the 2025 cars are going to cost!

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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by See8
Well, the unions know that the person who lives in a big white house on Pennslyvania ave isn't going to pull an 80s air traffic control deal on them, so that gives them more leverage.

Can't wait to see what the 2025 cars are going to cost!
A POTUS can't stop it because that office doesn't have the authority to stop a strike in the auto industry. The only power to stop a strike by a POTUS is under the Railway Labor Act (RLA), for "national security reasons." Massive disruption of the national transportation system is grounds for POTUS intervention under powers granted by the RLA. Stopping vehicle production poses no immediate danger to national security or a massive transportation disruption.

I don't think we'll see a strike. I've been on the management side of the negotiation table at a major airline, and have watched negotiations in other industries for years. The majority of the time, these things don't get settled until the last minute. The "game of chicken" is the only way each side can be convinced they've gotten the best deal possible, and strikes hurt both sides badly.

Witness the settlement of the UPS contract impasse a few weeks back, which happened just before "midnight" on the day before the walkout. There were 100s of doom and gloom stories about the economic damage that would be caused in the weeks leading up to the deadline, at which time it was magically resolved.

The fact that UAW is targeting all of the "Big 3" lowers the probability of a strike.

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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 03:45 PM
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The greedy uaw will cost us all more money.
Old Aug 25, 2023 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by steve8
The greedy uaw will cost us all more money.
If not worse, as I recall in the mid 1970's.

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Our company totally unrelated to automotive had UAW for a Union. It was for all Atmospheric Gas Plants around the country and unfortunately our welding wire plant in OH. Our R&D Lab was not part of the plant BUT we were located on the same site. The UAW wanted all plants to have the same contract data. That was not going to happen.

We went thru a tough 6-week strike with UAW bring in strong arm folks from Detroit who filled our 100-yard long, -wide driveway with glass throwing bottles. We were locked in. So my 35 Lab folks helped the plant make welding wire. Worked 12-hour days including weekends and earned a lot of money for the effort. All engineers and metallurgists were told they would be included in the extra pay, even my Lab Section Managers were paid!

When it was over felt bad for our Union folks as they didn't want a Strike and got a 5% wage increase with no change in benefits! No consolidation of contract dates for the gas plants around the country!

At the same time US Steel and Detroit were just caving to demands. Crazy health insurance plans after retirement until death for worker and family The Steel and Auto companies could not afford what they agreed to so prices increased dramatically. Soon no more US Steel, Bethlehem Steel, Kaiser Steel etc! Foreign cars captured a lot of the US market! It also helped lead to high inflation.

When we were transferred to corporate office in CT home interest rates were 17%. My wife thought she we were so Lucky getting a home with a assumable mortgage at ONLY 14%!

Today the 1st move will be more automation so fewer Auto workers!

We'll see!

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The Unions ruined the US steel industry. Came close to wrecking the Auto industry. Their greed forced many jobs overseas that will never come back. They drive costs and delays out of sight on public works projects. Inflation is taking the toll on middle class families. And in the midst of this they want more for themselves. What a joke.

Yeah they were good and helped labor issues in the US. But that was 100 years ago. They have outlived any usefulness to the USA

And you wonder why companies are moving as fast as they can to more automation and fewer employees?
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Originally Posted by tadda
If they do strike there is no telling how long it will be....
A strike could play into GM'S hand....just about everything they offer..is on CONSTRAINT! And the cant blame COVID..and certainly wont admit to incompetency.in those managing their supply chain or sourcing !

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Originally Posted by Maxie2U
Unfortunately if they don’t reach an agreement before the deadline it will be a long protracted strike because both side have too much to lose from their particular side.

I see the strike lasting at least 3 months.
...AND in NEW YORK State eligible for UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE after 7 weeks! I know I went thru 2 of them...both as both hourly and salary!
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Originally Posted by trumanjd1
A strike could play into GM'S hand....just about everything they offer..is on CONSTRAINT! And the cant blame COVID..and certainly wont admit to incompetency.in those managing their supply chain or sourcing !
Yeah They only surpassed 50,000 MY23 Vettes. Obviously somebody has been doing something right. Constraints are a complaint?

Well if GM didn't take the lead in offering all the options available there would be no constraints.
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Originally Posted by Maxie2U
Unfortunately if they don’t reach an agreement before the deadline it will be a long protracted strike because both side have too much to lose from their particular side.

I see the strike lasting at least 3 months.
Originally Posted by blackvetterzo6
so your saying GM keeps working if they strike somewhere else, I don’t think that’s how the UAW works. Have no idea but strike one plant and the union strikes them all. This would mean all GM employees would actually work while there brothers and sisters strike, kind of defeats the whole purpose.
THERE IS a 1 in 3 chance that GM will be target of strike if FORD or Chrysler ARE IT..THE OTHER 2 will continue to operate until such time that contract offered is agreeable to the strike target!



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