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When asking our local dealer the price for adding the (2) qts fluid, they told us it is now included. Is GM conceding the 2 qts is now required, like on MY 2024? A few mos ago they told me it was $250. Either way, I am adding it based on MY 2024 requirement. I figure, it can't hurt.
When asking our local dealer the price for adding the (2) qts fluid, they told us it is now included. Is GM conceding the 2 qts is now required, like on MY 2024? Y mos ago they told me it was $250. Either way, I am adding it based on MY 2024 requirement. I figure, it can't hurt.
You need a different dealer that knows what he's talking about. Your current one appears to be an idiot... The two (2) additional liters HAVE NEVER BEEN INCLUDED from the factory (including 2024's).
The 2024's and some late 2023s have a modified internal system that not only does not require the extra 2 quarts. you SHOULD NOT ADD EXTRA DCT fluid, track use or not.
The dealer would bill a customer for the extra fluid by charging the Chevy "book" method for the extra, which requires disassembly of the trunk, removal of the air cheaner to get access to the plug on the top of the DCT case. The easy way to do it is to just jack up the proper side of the car , remove the fill plug and pour in the extra 2 quarts, then replace the plug. Much less time and effort. Since you should not add the extra fluid on the 2024, this process should not matter to you.
Your dealer is correct....you do not add any additional fluid to the 2024 since you have the redesigned DCT.
OMG, the OP's original statement from the dealer indicates that the dealer is incorrect. @gliot1 said that the dealer told him that the 2 additional quarts (it's actually liters!) are INCLUDED in the 2024's. This part of the statement is WRONG, the 2 additional liters are not necessary, regardless of tracking the car or not, due to a redesign of the DCT pan, NOT that any additional fluid has been added to the fill from the factory. Accurate facts matter, and in this case both @LucaBrasiAZ and the dealer are wrong. This is why Social Media is such a poor method of distributing information, there is (are) FAR to many false statements being perpetuated as FACTS when in reality, they are FALSE.
OMG, the OP's original statement from the dealer indicates that the dealer is incorrect. @gliot1 said that the dealer told him that the 2 additional quarts (it's actually liters!) are INCLUDED in the 2024's. This part of the statement is WRONG, the 2 additional liters are not necessary, regardless of tracking the car or not, due to a redesign of the DCT pan, NOT that any additional fluid has been added to the fill from the factory. Accurate facts matter, and in this case both @LucaBrasiAZ and the dealer are wrong. This is why Social Media is such a poor method of distributing information, there is (are) FAR to many false statements being perpetuated as FACTS when in reality, they are FALSE.
Yup. But the 2024 Owner's Manual might offer a clue - see attached. And yes, it does not come with 2 extra liters. Per Josh Holder's written words posted in another thread, for "all Corvettes built after July of 2023...... The case and lube system have been revised so that the extra 2L of oil is no longer required for any situation."
You need a different dealer that knows what he's talking about. Your current one appears to be an idiot... The two (2) additional liters HAVE NEVER BEEN INCLUDED from the factory (including 2024's).
True, but the 2024 does not NEED the additional 2 quarts added.
But since the OP doesn't have a 2024, he needs to determine the build date to see if he has the new DCT case or the old one.
When asking our local dealer the price for adding the (2) qts fluid, they told us it is now included. Is GM conceding the 2 qts is now required, like on MY 2024? Y mos ago they told me it was $250. Either way, I am adding it based on MY 2024 requirement. I figure, it can't hurt.
Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
The OP has a MY23 so the MY24 info does not apply.
What? Above is the OPs post #1. He says he has 2024. That is why I responded with 2024 information. If his intent was to ask if 2024 guidance is applicable to earlier models, that will generally be a big NO. 2020-2022 still required the 2 liters for track use - it is not recommended for any other uses. Starting in July 2023, 2023 models started to get the transmission with he new case design. You have to check the VIN to see what you have in that case. If you have a later 2023 or a 2024 with the new case, you do not need to add an additional 2 liters for track use - or any use.
However, the (incorrect) premise of the OPs question was that 2024 transmission were actually delivered with 2 extra liters of fluid, and it sounded like he may have been asking if that implies that all prior model years should now have the 2 extra liters added for all uses, not limited to track use. That of course is a big NO, because the premise was not correct in first place.
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Actually IMO the OP does not state he has a 2024 car. The MY in his post refers to model year, not that he is talking about his particular car. The OP can clarify that though.
Actually IMO the OP does not state he has a 2024 car. The MY in his post refers to model year, not that he is talking about his particular car. The OP can clarify that though.
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From the OP's other post his car built MAY 2023. probably not the MY2024 DCT
Last edited by Vega$Vette; Dec 7, 2023 at 04:03 PM.
It was my understanding that the MY2024 has the new case AND 2 more litres of fluid from the factory. My understanding is the new case has baffles to prevent sloshing of the fluid. It made some sense then, that the additional fluid might be recommended by GM. The dealer I use is a very large dealer that services many Corvettes and has multiple trained techs, and they seem to be seasoned with C8 maintenance. I am adding the 2 litres no matter what, but if they provide free even better.
I think like most posts, a lot of folks didnt understand what I was asking.
All indications are that the 2024 (and late 2023) DCTs don't have 2 quarts of additional fluid. GM just fixed the issue of fluid starvation in certain track conditions.
If you want to be sure ask your dealer to look up the DCT fluid capacity for a 2020-2022 and 2024. They should be very close if the case design is the only change but the 2024 should have about 2 additional quarts capacity if GM also increased the fluid capacity.
GM specifically says not to add the 2 additional quarts to 2024 DCTs although it probably wouldn't do anything worse than it does to the earlier DCTs if you did (other than potentially voiding your warranty). I'd definitely find out which DCT your 2023 has.
There has been at least one case where GM has blamed a problem on adding the 2 additional quarts. There was a car that was doing competitive high speed runs and the computer was pulling power. GM blamed this on the additional fluid causing problems with a temperature sensor.
It was my understanding that the MY2024 has the new case AND 2 more litres of fluid from the factory. My understanding is the new case has baffles to prevent sloshing of the fluid. It made some sense then, that the additional fluid might be recommended by GM. The dealer I use is a very large dealer that services many Corvettes and has multiple trained techs, and they seem to be seasoned with C8 maintenance. I am adding the 2 litres no matter what, but if they provide free even better.
I think like most posts, a lot of folks didnt understand what I was asking.
RKCRLR is correct. GM is not adding more fluid to 2024s.
We understood what you were asking. And we understood your dealer is giving you incorrect information.
It's still not clear from your post what year car YOU have, and if it's a 2023 when it was built.