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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 02:38 PM
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awesome - thanks for the feedback. It's a blast and def a cool party trick for when giving some first rides.
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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 02:38 PM
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In three years twice on mine, plus three times at Ron Fellows. Cant imagine having a C8 and not doing it at least once.
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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gliot1
I did it a few time at Ron Fellows but never on my own C8. Some noted above it is too tough on car, but at Fellows it was noted GM has stated that you can do it as often as you like on C8 with full warranty backing. That was not so on C7 and they only gave us a sheet of how to do it.
Can't happen in a C7, needs a DCT! Understand they are driving thru both 1st and 2nd gears and shafts by slipping both clutches. No such ability with a C7 auto or manual.

Quoting the person who had Josh Holder's current job when the C8 was launched. GM’s Chief Corvette Engineer, Piatek: “We found that during very aggressive launches we can drive torque through both shafts/clutches simultaneously which improves the 0 to 60 times.”

In a recent post it was indicated GM is doing what some other performance DCT's do. Put power thru both clutches simulations BY SLIPPING THE CLUTCHES. I posted that must be for only milliseconds. A member who works in the automotive control field said with some performance DCTs it's near 100 milliseconds in some DCTs. He had no direct info for the Tremec built DCT.
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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 02:50 PM
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I don't think my non-Z51 has Launch Control but I was out in the country side on a road that has no traffic (ends on a forestry road) so decided to try a launch. Turned traction control off. Hard brakes, Full throttle. 3500 rpm Let go brakes. Burned about $100 of tires and will not do it again but it was a memorable experience. I also tried "Rapid Exit" that is using both paddles and similar results. Later I read this:

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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Can't happen in a C7, needs a DCT! Understand they are driving thru both 1st and 2nd gears and shafts by slipping both clutches. No such ability with a C7 auto or manual.

Quoting the person who had Josh Holder's current job when the C8 was launched. GM’s Chief Corvette Engineer, Piatek: “We found that during very aggressive launches we can drive torque through both shafts/clutches simultaneously which improves the 0 to 60 times.”

In a recent post it was indicated GM is doing what some other performance DCT's do. Put power thru both clutches simulations BY SLIPPING THE CLUTCHES. I posted that must be for only milliseconds. A member who works in the automotive control field said with some performance DCTs it's near 100 milliseconds in some DCTs. He had no direct info for the Tremec built DCT.
Sorry to say you are wrong. C7 had it both on automatic and manual. It was not nearly as good as C8, but definitely has it on C7. A simple search and you would have seen numerous articles on it. I did it once on my own C7. Understand most traction control features prior to C8 applied millisecond quick braking on affected wheels. Traction control control has been available for years, my 2000 Mustang even had it. Launch control takes it a step further, by automating traction control to provide best launch possible. At Fellows they used to teach it at C7 class, but stopped as they said it was too abusive to do with C7s daily. Many non DCT cars have it, including C7. You may want to check out the website below....there are loads more articles and videos about it on C7. The bottom line is you do not need a DCT to do it. GM may slip the clutches as part of it, but plenty of performance cars have it without DCT.

https://www.stingrayforums.com/threa...uctions.35218/

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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gdb069
I don't think my non-Z51 has Launch Control but I was out in the country side on a road that has no traffic (ends on a forestry road) so decided to try a launch. Turned traction control off. Hard brakes, Full throttle. 3500 rpm Let go brakes. Burned about $100 of tires and will not do it again but it was a memorable experience. I also tried "Rapid Exit" that is using both paddles and similar results. Later I read this:
You should be able to do it....

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...se-0-60-a.html
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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gliot1
Sorry to say you are wrong. C7 had it both on automatic and manual. It was not nearly as good as C8, but definitely has it on C7. A simple search and you would have seen numerous articles on it. I did it once on my own C7. Understand most traction control features prior to C8 applied millisecond quick braking on affected wheels. Traction control control has been available for years, my 2000 Mustang even had it. Launch control takes it a step further, by automating traction control to provide best launch possible. At Fellows they used to teach it at C7 class, but stopped as they said it was too abusive to do with C7s daily. Many non DCT cars have it, including C7. You may want to check out the website below....there are loads more articles and videos about it on C7. The bottom line is you do not need a DCT to do it. GM may slip the clutches as part of it, but plenty of performance cars have it without DCT.

https://www.stingrayforums.com/threa...uctions.35218/
You can call it Launch Control BUT unlike a DCT that transmits torque thru 2 gears simultaneously- IT IS NOT WHAT THE C8 DOES!

Need two clutches connected to the engine at the same time! There is one torque converter connected to the C7 engine- NOT 2.

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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 05:49 PM
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Never have used it. With the reliability issues and being a GM product, I'm afraid something will break. Not going to push my luck.
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Old Jul 27, 2024 | 07:45 PM
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Still haven’t tried it yet which is way overdue! Unlike others I have zero concern it’s hard on the drive train never does Tadge.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 07:10 AM
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After 2 years I still haven't tried it. But, I have been thinking about it. One of these days.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
You can call it Launch Control BUT unlike a DCT that transmits torque thru 2 gears simultaneously- IT IS NOT WHAT THE C8 DOES!

Need two clutches connected to the engine at the same time! There is one torque converter connected to the C7 engine- NOT 2.
You stated that C7 never had Launch Control, which is false. I agree it was not done the same as how C8 handles it, but regardless it still had LC on C7, like a number of other cars without DCTs have.

If you would have stated that C8 doesn't do LC the same as C7 I wouldn't have even commented, but you said it didn't exist on C7.

At issue is there is loads of mis information on the internet so I felt compelled to comment.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 11:21 AM
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3 years and not once.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jipper
Not once - don't even know how to do it
Same here, I haven't even bothered to learn how to use it so the answer for me is... never.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 03:00 PM
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The usable traction is so good in a base C8 there’s not much point of using it in my opinion. Yes, it makes for a slightly faster 0-60 but a normal wot lauch pulls hard as is.

Some other cars need the clutch drop effect to get the best lauch or need the traction management to control wheelspin and the launch mode makes a huge difference. I suppose the Z06 has enough power for that modulation to be important, but the base car is nearly balanced out of the box with enough launch traction to handle what the motor can give.

Far as it being hard on the car wheel hop is the big killer of drivetrain parts so the modulation launch control gives you is prolly better on surfaces where hop can happen vs. someone that just keeps the hammer down through it.

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Uae it all the time. Whats tge point in owning these cars if you do not use them for what they are? Never understood the “so afraid to use it” mentality.
To each their own. But someone asked. Yes i use it. Yes i drive the car on days hard. On street and on track.
Enjoy it. Use it. Its a car. I do care about it. I over maintain it. I keep it cleaner than new. But man alive go drive it.
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