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Old Nov 26, 2024 | 11:23 AM
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Why did it have to be in a contained space? Why couldn't it be similar to most oil filters out there? By making it a bespoke component, GM increased the cost dramatically.
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I am not aware of another car with an external trans filter.
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Old Nov 26, 2024 | 11:50 AM
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I am not aware of another car with an external trans filter.
Shelby GT500 and Maserati MC20 DCTs. Possibly the same filter as the C8.

Many DCTs have external filters and they are cartridge filters. They can handle higher pressures and take up less space per media area than a typical spin on.
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Aftermarket DCT filters are coming. Here as a product announcement from Linesoon:
http://www.linesoon.com/?lang=en&uni...ct=view&id=453
They may even be an OEM supplier.

Here is the corresponding filter for the TR9070:
http://www.linesoon.com/index.php?un...rent=6&id=3417
It appears the only difference is the cover fasteners and perhaps o-ring.
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BUT...can you purchase one?

K228710T(GM M1L 8 SPEED, OEM# 24299326)???

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BUT...can you purchase one?

K228710T(GM M1L 8 SPEED, OEM# 24299326)???

Not practically. There is a place in Poland selling them but the hassle wouldn't make up for the savings to me:
https://maktrans.net/K228710T-LS-TR-9080-ext-oil-filter

But I'd expect them to start showing up on Amazon, eBay, etc. (unless trade tariffs impact it).
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Why did it have to be in a contained space? Why couldn't it be similar to most oil filters out there? By making it a bespoke component, GM increased the cost dramatically.
Design For Serviceability (DFS) is not a concept GM embraces. Just look at some of the debacles over the last few years.....C8 tranny, belt driven oil pumps on the back side of a diesel engine, etc. Its a scam to get your $ for very expensive services at the dealership.
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Don’t buy a C8. Don’t buy a Chevy. Don’t buy GM. Maybe a Yaris.


Originally Posted by db4375
Design For Serviceability (DFS) is not a concept GM embraces. Just look at some of the debacles over the last few years.....C8 tranny, belt driven oil pumps on the back side of a diesel engine, etc. Its a scam to get your $ for very expensive services at the dealership.
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I think you are right about the original supplier. When the C8 came out, in 2020 Rock Auto sold the AC Delco filter for $39.95. check the link External oil filter M1L / TR-9080 DCT 2020-UP 24299326 24045729.
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Originally Posted by undecided1965
Why did it have to be in a contained space? Why couldn't it be similar to most oil filters out there? By making it a bespoke component, GM increased the cost dramatically.
DCT hydrulic pressure are a lot higher hen the ~60 psi max engine oil pressure. Don't recall seeing the actual pressures but the eSLD electric motor driven external pump on the C7 eLSD operated up to ~3000 psi. Could use than much to load the side clutch plates. Those same clutch plates are inside the DCT so would need high pressure. Might also need to the front dual clutches.

Yep making a metal "can" to hold 3000 psi is not like the simple stamped sheet metal engine oil filter. At 3000 psi may need to be certified by ASME for high pressure tanks!
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My John Deere garden tractor has an external transmission fluid filter. It is a circa 1990 design.
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Originally Posted by 5632
I am not aware of another car with an external trans filter.
My GT500 did and GM trucks with Allison transmissions did.
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