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Old May 13, 2023 | 03:43 PM
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Default ARH header install

Probably a dumb question, but for those of you that have installed headers on your c8, did you (can you?) reuse the OEM header gasket? ARH supplied some thick paper type gasket, but wondering if it's better to reuse the factory metal gasket.

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Old May 13, 2023 | 04:54 PM
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Yes you can reuse it.
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I reused the factory gasket...i had about 3k miles on my car though.
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Old May 14, 2023 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 01Defense
I reused the factory gasket...i had about 3k miles on my car though.
Nice thank you both! I've got a little under 3800 miles on her, and the metal gaskets look fine so I'll just reuse them.
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Originally Posted by c8speed
Nice thank you both! I've got a little under 3800 miles on her, and the metal gaskets look fine so I'll just reuse them.
This info may help:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...headers-2.html
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Old May 21, 2023 | 02:05 PM
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Yes I reused mine, but used the new header bolts. The ARH gaskets look very low buck.
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Originally Posted by 9secGN
Yes I reused mine, but used the new header bolts. The ARH gaskets look very low buck.
This is exactly the route I went as well. Took it out for a drive today (first time) and there seems to be a lot more chatter and almost like a hissing noise around 2.5 - 3k under light load. Do you hear the same? Waiting for her to cool off and will check for any obvious leaks (soot around the header and cat flanges) but reading around, a bit more noise and even sometimes a whoosing or hissing can be considered normal with the thinner header walls? No CEL or anything so far but probably only went 20 miles of mixed driving. Thanks to all again for the help
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I did not noticed any noises other than increased exhaust volume. Make sure you check/tighten down all header bolts. I rechecked mine about 3 times over the course of two weeks.
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Never heard any hissing type noise. Thes cars are pretty sensitive to any type of exhaust leak, so I'd think you would get a code.

Is your car stock apart from the headers?
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Old May 23, 2023 | 04:56 PM
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check that the flange on the ARH's is flat. they include the thick gasket to make up for the crappy not flat flange on the headers. I too wanted to reuse the stock gasket as its quit nice with the heat shielding but the headers wouldnt seal appropriately with the stock gasket.

Good luck.
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I used the gaskets that came with the ARH with no issues.
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Originally Posted by J5isalive
check that the flange on the ARH's is flat. they include the thick gasket to make up for the crappy not flat flange on the headers. I too wanted to reuse the stock gasket as its quit nice with the heat shielding but the headers wouldnt seal appropriately with the stock gasket.

Good luck.
I must of gotten lucky or you got really unlucky, luckily the oem gaskets worked fine for me in addition to using arp studs. I feel like I didn't say lucky enough but the oem gasket from arh headers to corsa cats worked great as well.
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Dang this community is awesome. Between the step by steps posted by @Kracka and some others across different threads, and people chiming in with tips, really appreciate the info guys. Will be checking the tightness on the bolts again today. Still haven't seen any soot around any flanges at this point, but if everything is still tight, I'll probably pull em off and try the thicker paper type gaskets that came with the headers. And check for flatness on the flange. That will actually bug me quite a bit if there's an issue there considering ARH is supposed to be the "best" (debatable from all of the threads I've read I know). Oh well. It's been quite a few years since I did headers myself and I'm sort of kicking myself for forgetting to check the basics before slapping new parts on. Oh well live and learn
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Old May 24, 2023 | 08:43 AM
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If no leaks, I'd personally leave well enough alone since you have good mating between flange surfaces. Just my 2-cents!
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Originally Posted by Kracka
If no leaks, I'd personally leave well enough alone since you have good mating between flange surfaces. Just my 2-cents!
Yeah frankly I'm about there . I just checked the torque on all of the bolts and they're at spec (18 ft/lbs I believe - tightened from the center out). Still no soot around any flanges. After taking it for a test drive, the only way I know how to describe the noise is it sounds like something rattling around inside the exhaust, and only when I get on it enough. Like metal flakes in a laundry dryer l if that makes sense. I might pop one side off just to take a look inside, blow it out and check the cats substrate as well. Not sure what else to check as there is plenty of clearance virtually all around the headers and cats from the body. Tried to get a recording, but the iPhone doesn't really pick up the noise I'm hearing, sadly.

Full disclosure, current mods are:
  • Gwatney ported intake manifold
  • Halltech intake
  • Soler ported TB (95 effective)
  • ARH headers 1 7/8
Only change in this cycle was the addition of the headers.

I hear a lot more of the drivetrain (ticking) which doesn't bother me at all, but its the swirling or rattling noise that bugs me. Will keep at it, and thanks
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Originally Posted by c8speed
Yeah frankly I'm about there . I just checked the torque on all of the bolts and they're at spec (18 ft/lbs I believe - tightened from the center out). Still no soot around any flanges. After taking it for a test drive, the only way I know how to describe the noise is it sounds like something rattling around inside the exhaust, and only when I get on it enough. Like metal flakes in a laundry dryer l if that makes sense. I might pop one side off just to take a look inside, blow it out and check the cats substrate as well. Not sure what else to check as there is plenty of clearance virtually all around the headers and cats from the body. Tried to get a recording, but the iPhone doesn't really pick up the noise I'm hearing, sadly.

Full disclosure, current mods are:
  • Gwatney ported intake manifold
  • Halltech intake
  • Soler ported TB (95 effective)
  • ARH headers 1 7/8
Only change in this cycle was the addition of the headers.

I hear a lot more of the drivetrain (ticking) which doesn't bother me at all, but its the swirling or rattling noise that bugs me. Will keep at it, and thanks
Did you ever figure out the cause of your noise? I have a very similar install with ARH headers and OEM gaskets on my C8 HTC. I've triple checked for leaks by pressurizing the exhaust and spraying soapy water to look for bubbles. I'm not finding any leaks but keep doubting myself as the fluttering noise persist.
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Originally Posted by mcss84
Did you ever figure out the cause of your noise? I have a very similar install with ARH headers and OEM gaskets on my C8 HTC. I've triple checked for leaks by pressurizing the exhaust and spraying soapy water to look for bubbles. I'm not finding any leaks but keep doubting myself as the fluttering noise persist.
Check the heat shield on the driver’s side where the catback pipe connects to the cat. Mine was touching and made noise. Made an adjustment and all is good now.
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Originally Posted by 01Defense
Check the heat shield on the driver’s side where the catback pipe connects to the cat. Mine was touching and made noise. Made an adjustment and all is good now.
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Did you ever figure out the cause of your noise? I have a very similar install with ARH headers and OEM gaskets on my C8 HTC. I've triple checked for leaks by pressurizing the exhaust and spraying soapy water to look for bubbles. I'm not finding any leaks but keep doubting myself as the fluttering noise persist.
Sadly I haven't had much time to drive the poor thing lately, but will be taking her out soon to get another take on the noise. Good tip, @01Defense , I'll check that as well. I don't remember mentioning it prior but I did do a full smoke test of both the intake and exhaust and came up empty handed, and still no soot anywhere, so I'm guessing there's some physical rubbing/vibrations going on at certain rpms. Other than the slightly annoying sound, she runs beautifully and no CELs.
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Did you add only headers? Any hp/tq gains?
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Old Apr 11, 2024 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mmthomas
Did you add only headers? Any hp/tq gains?
Existing mods are in a post above, but at the time, yes only the headers. Unfortunately, I can only go by the "butt dyno" effect for myself at this point, and yes more fun was had at full throttle. But overall, I just like to tinker
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