Heads/cam packages
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Heads/cam packages
Are there any shops with published heads/cam/tuning packages and pricing out besides Peitz? I can't seem to find anything else out there now that HP tuners is out.
Melting Slicks
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Katech. They are claiming 565hp for $14,995. Appears to be a mild cam and headwork with all the ancillary bits to make it work. Also includes HP Tuners unlock and dyno calibration. That appears to be a price including installation, but the site is a bit vague. If they can back up that number with dyno sheets and satisfied customers, that really isn't completely horrible pricing. I mean, the HP Tuner process is $3K right off the top so the rest of it you're getting for $12K. Guys have been spending that on bullshit bolt-on builds to get 25whp.
Instructor
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$8500 is already absurd. Even with $3k of that being the tune, $5500 for a cam and labor? Nuts. And this is a discounted price? They would have to just charge me for parts for me to leave them my car.
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ps: It doesn't really matter thou guys, the ECU unlock was JUST released barely 30+days ago... there are *multiple* shops nationwide scrambling to beta test various head/cam setups to release to the public. This will drive the HP levels UP while lowering the costs of future N/A packages. There's a HUGE market demand $$$ for strong N/A packages over bolt-on blowers for many owners. Particularly track rats. This will deliver us better options in the near future... capitalism*
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Dig
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Instructor
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Yep...ported heads, cam, install and tune on camaros is about 1/3 the cost. Got quoted $195/hr x 30hrs for labor for head/cam install which is absurd. $195/hr labor? Is that typical or just for C8 business?
Melting Slicks
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Labor rates are going to be very location dependent. $195/hr for a reputable tuning shop in a big metro area is not out of the realm. Gets cheaper in places with lower cost of living.
Depressingly, I looked at LT1 stuff for Camaros and the parts are anywhere from $2-3K for heads and cam. Using the $15K we've seen advertised thus far, if you back out $3K for HPTuners for the C8 and a very generous $5,000 for install, the parts themselves seem to run about $7K. So, over twice what Camaro bits cost.
Depressingly, I looked at LT1 stuff for Camaros and the parts are anywhere from $2-3K for heads and cam. Using the $15K we've seen advertised thus far, if you back out $3K for HPTuners for the C8 and a very generous $5,000 for install, the parts themselves seem to run about $7K. So, over twice what Camaro bits cost.
Dig
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From: Port Saint Lucie FLORIDA & HONDURAS
Labor rates are going to be very location dependent. $195/hr for a reputable tuning shop in a big metro area is not out of the realm. Gets cheaper in places with lower cost of living.
Depressingly, I looked at LT1 stuff for Camaros and the parts are anywhere from $2-3K for heads and cam. Using the $15K we've seen advertised thus far, if you back out $3K for HPTuners for the C8 and a very generous $5,000 for install, the parts themselves seem to run about $7K. So, over twice what Camaro bits cost.
Depressingly, I looked at LT1 stuff for Camaros and the parts are anywhere from $2-3K for heads and cam. Using the $15K we've seen advertised thus far, if you back out $3K for HPTuners for the C8 and a very generous $5,000 for install, the parts themselves seem to run about $7K. So, over twice what Camaro bits cost.
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