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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 04:06 PM
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Hi. Newbie here. Searched but could not find an answer.. I just bought a 2020 HTC without NPP. The rest of the car had everything we wanted but I hope I didn't make a big mistake. If I buy a used C8 NPP exhaust can I use it with my car with a NPP simulator and if so would the exhust valves be always open or always closed or no that will not work and you must go aftermarket? Thanks.
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 05:03 PM
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Valve simulators are for cars that have NPP installed and go non valve aftermarket.
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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Hi. Newbie here. Searched but could not find an answer.. I just bought a 2020 HTC without NPP. The rest of the car had everything we wanted but I hope I didn't make a big mistake. If I buy a used C8 NPP exhaust can I use it with my car with a NPP simulator and if so would the exhust valves be always open or always closed or no that will not work and you must go aftermarket? Thanks.
You can install it, yes. You will not need the simulators. Non NPP muffllers have the AFM valves that close when V4 mode is active. You will remove the actuators for those valves from your current muffler and put them on your NPP muffler in the same location. A relearn for those actuators will probably be necessary. As for the tail pipe flow control valves that will be on your NPP muffler, I have read on the forum that they are spring loaded, and without the actuators (you will not have actuators for those) the valves will default open. If that is not the case - its still a simple matter to find a way to tie them in the open position. Obviously, you will not be able to open and close the tailpipe flow control valves because you dont have the actuators for them.
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Old Sep 12, 2023 | 08:31 AM
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Wow! That's great news! Thanks Andybump for the info.
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Honestly, I'd skip the NPP and do aftermarket. I've had my NPP set to Track since I bought the car in Feb and my wife hasn't complained once, which is a sure sign it's too quiet. It's a decent sound in Track, but still too quiet for many people. It's good at full throttle and above about 3500rpm, but below that at part throttle, it's very quiet. If I had it to do over, I would have skipped NPP and just gone with the stock base exhaust and replaced it with an aftermarket unit.
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Honestly, I'd skip the NPP and do aftermarket. I've had my NPP set to Track since I bought the car in Feb and my wife hasn't complained once, which is a sure sign it's too quiet. It's a decent sound in Track, but still too quiet for many people. It's good at full throttle and above about 3500rpm, but below that at part throttle, it's very quiet. If I had it to do over, I would have skipped NPP and just gone with the stock base exhaust and replaced it with an aftermarket unit.
Its a good point. I have an HTC. When I want it loud, its not really as loud as I want it be, and also I don't feel that it has the tonal qualities that are available with a Borla or other product. And, also, there are times, with the top down, that I prefer not to have extra noise, so I would not like it wired open all the time either.
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Bought this C8 after owning A C5 6m vert with Corsa Sport exhaust. Moved up to a C7 vert A6 with NPP. Did the fuse 41 hack to make it loud all the time and installed a range device to keep it in V8 mode all the time. Used Npp exhaust off new vehicles are available all the time at a fraction of aftermarket exhaust. I'm thinking that since the used NPP would be open all the time as what I had in my C7, that might be the way to go. I would rather error on the side of a little too quiet versus too loud and or droney as I have no way to change exhaust modes with a base exhaust car. What say you?
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Bought this C8 after owning A C5 6m vert with Corsa Sport exhaust. Moved up to a C7 vert A6 with NPP. Did the fuse 41 hack to make it loud all the time and installed a range device to keep it in V8 mode all the time. Used Npp exhaust off new vehicles are available all the time at a fraction of aftermarket exhaust. I'm thinking that since the used NPP would be open all the time as what I had in my C7, that might be the way to go. I would rather error on the side of a little too quiet versus too loud and or droney as I have no way to change exhaust modes with a base exhaust car. What say you?
Your reasoning sounds valid to me. Since you wont have an option to control it from the car menu whatever you choose it what you will hear all the time.
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... I would rather error on the side of a little too quiet versus too loud and or droney as I have no way to change exhaust modes with a base exhaust car. What say you?
Definitely the take-off NPP then. As mentioned, my wife has not complained about it once and I run it in track full time. Haven't noticed any real drone with it that way either.
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Definitely the take-off NPP then. As mentioned, my wife has not complained about it once and I run it in track full time. Haven't noticed any real drone with it that way either.
I have the base exhaust and I thought about getting a NPP exhaust for a few hundred and do a swap but after hearing the NPP I realize that the difference in sound was very minimal that to me wasn’t worth it and I knew I wasn’t going to be happy so I ordered a MBRP that to me sounds much much better, it’s much lighter and looks better than the NPP and it wasn’t expensive at all
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Thanks every one for your thoughts. They will help me make an informed decision. Leaning toward going with a take-off NPP.
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