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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 07:43 PM
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I never realized that the C8 Z06 is as heavy as I saw MT say it is!! Is it true it weighs nearly 3,700lbs??!!!
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I never realized that the C8 Z06 is as heavy as I saw MT say it is!! Is it true it weighs nearly 3,700lbs??!!!
they did that for better down force!
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I never realized that the C8 Z06 is as heavy as I saw MT say it is!! Is it true it weighs nearly 3,700lbs??!!!
they did that for better down force!
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they did that for better down force!
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by harley2
they did that for better down force!
Don't be silly. What really happened was, due to Covid they couldn't source soft enough springs so they filled the aluminum chassis with lead until they reached the optimal ride height. This raised the weight from 2974 lbs to 3655. But it sits properly now so all good.
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by grinder11
I never realized that the C8 Z06 is as heavy as I saw MT say it is!! Is it true it weighs nearly 3,700lbs??!!!
Sad, but true.
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Their car is only about 3300 curb weight, but the aero is so effective it produces 400 pounds of downforce at 0 mph. So it shows 3700 ponds on the scales.
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Mazda makes a car for you OP..If 3700 pounds is too much weight for you to handle
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Old Dec 8, 2022 | 07:51 AM
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Their car is only about 3300 curb weight, but the aero is so effective it produces 400 pounds of downforce at 0 mph. So it shows 3700 ponds on the scales.
Downforce at 0 mph and 0 drive train loss! Car is already a legend before its time. I get the crazy markups now.
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Pfft. Don't worry, OP, about that big number. They probably used a set of DynoJet scales to get that number, and everybody knows if you put it on a set of Mustang scales you'll get a smaller number. . . .

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It's not heavy. It just has more "road hugging weight".
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GM - “This really is not a numbers car, we never intended to be”

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All the mandated safety equipment adds weight. Giant 20/21 inch wheels are heavy, as are the tires mounted on them. Big brakes are heavy. Making those things lighter costs money. Lots of money, and the Z is already pricey. Aside from that, Corvette buyers, even Z06 buyer, like their luxury. 10 - 12 speaker stereos with big, powerful amps. Power everything with motors in the steering column, mirrors, seats (multiple motors there), trunk latch. Lots of sound insulation. Stripping, say 500 lbs from the car would probably add $10,000 or more to the cost, and hardly anyone would buy it without all the goodies.
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Originally Posted by Red Mist Rulz
All the mandated safety equipment adds weight. Giant 20/21 inch wheels are heavy, as are the tires mounted on them. Big brakes are heavy. Making those things lighter costs money. Lots of money, and the Z is already pricey. Aside from that, Corvette buyers, even Z06 buyer, like their luxury. 10 - 12 speaker stereos with big, powerful amps. Power everything with motors in the steering column, mirrors, seats (multiple motors there), trunk latch. Lots of sound insulation. Stripping, say 500 lbs from the car would probably add $10,000 or more to the cost, and hardly anyone would buy it without all the goodies.
Also the wiring, relays, solenoids, etc; used to power all of that stuff. I stripped an old 85 Vette wiring harness of everything not needed to run the engine and safety equipment years ago. It ended up being about 20 pounds of wiring in a bag when done. And that’s from an ancient creature comfort deficient mid 80s vehicle. I would not be surprised if there’s 100 pounds or more of wiring alone in the Z for all the luxury items.
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I care more about lap times which for some reasons GM hasn't released any.
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Compared to my 2021 GT500 it is a lightweight...

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Don't get me wrong... I love the new Z06 but the guys who have a lightweight C6 Z06 with the manual have a very special car too... There's a lot to be said for cars like that... I'll also say that despite it's size and weight the C8 doesn't really feel all that heavy when you're behind the wheel...
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all the safety, luxury, and size don't come without penalty

ironic that the old steel frame c5 is so much lighter.

c8 to me is a big car. love to see a bit of trimming here and there and I for one don't need golf clubs
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Originally Posted by Red Mist Rulz
All the mandated safety equipment adds weight. Giant 20/21 inch wheels are heavy, as are the tires mounted on them. Big brakes are heavy. Making those things lighter costs money. Lots of money, and the Z is already pricey. Aside from that, Corvette buyers, even Z06 buyer, like their luxury. 10 - 12 speaker stereos with big, powerful amps. Power everything with motors in the steering column, mirrors, seats (multiple motors there), trunk latch. Lots of sound insulation. Stripping, say 500 lbs from the car would probably add $10,000 or more to the cost, and hardly anyone would buy it without all the goodies.
500 lbs is like removing the fully dressed LT6 engine from the car.
That's a huge difference if the goodies are retained.
IMO, it would probably cost closer to $50K to do that at a production level.
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Something to look forward to in the future. I know GM is already mass-producing the C8's rear crash bar in carbon fiber. I believe it's a first step by GM to use more carbon fiber in other parts of the Corvette structure in the future, and they wanted to do it with something easy to produce/easy to repair first to see how it goes and monitor the defect rate and real-world performance over time.

"using Compression RTM "will help Nissan trim about 176 pounds, on average, from future vehicle weights."

"Nissan is still tweaking the Compression RTM process, but expects CFRP will show up in unsexy parts like B-pillars as early as their 2024 model year."


https://www.core77.com/posts/102118/...on-Fiber-Parts

The hope is that these weight savings are not offset by other heavy luxury/safety parts, like they have been over time.

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Originally Posted by Rkreigh
all the safety, luxury, and size don't come without penalty

ironic that the old steel frame c5 is so much lighter.

c8 to me is a big car. love to see a bit of trimming here and there and I for one don't need golf clubs
yea but many Corvette owners are golfers (including me) and I wouldn't have bought my C8 if I couldn't fit 1 set of clubs in it.
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