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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 11:18 AM
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NOBODY. Not one purchaser of the Corvette Z06/Z07 can make a complaint about weight unless THEY are 165 lbs. OR LESS. Any driver/owner that is greater than 165 lbs. can purchase carbon wheels. Any driver/owner over the 180 lb. limit must pay ADM. No drivers over 200lbs, full stop. Too heavy for the car.

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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 11:22 AM
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Man, I just looked even the super heavy Turbo S AWD is less then 3700lbs, but I guess cars are just getting heavier and heavier.
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 11:25 AM
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Why no complaints about the dual motor "S"....all the haters just love its track times and seem to see past the 4,900lbs...?
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 11:38 AM
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@Telepierre I was seeing if you could send me (PM is fine) the Turbo S track video - I would like to share it with him. Thank you and Happy Holidays!
No track video. This was a media post from Porsche. I recall it had the picture of a 992 GT3 and a 992 Turbo side by side (don't recall if it was an S) and Porsche was simply pointing out that for the track the turbo is faster and cheek and tongue more expensive. I'll try to find the link again. I did not read the entire thing as you know I really don't care...

Either way I try to be accurate to a fault! I did not state anything about the GT3RS (again it is not in the US yet that I know of) so I feel conflating my message on the GT3 with the GT3RS would do your friend a disservice?



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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Man, I just looked even the super heavy Turbo S AWD is less then 3700lbs, but I guess cars are just getting heavier and heavier.
A Turbo S AWD Cabrio is 3790 so yes if you want creature comforts and compete in that segment things get heavier.
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 01:39 PM
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Nissan GTRs have been "porky" at around 3800+ lbs since 2008. Plenty of those cars at the track turning massively fast lap times.
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 02:05 PM
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I took my Cayenne on the Ring, its 5000lbs and a PR advertised lap time of 7:xx? and it is just mind bending how they can make that much weight go that fast but more surprisingly how much fun it is.
Only did a handful of laps because I didn't want to destroy the brakes. But the brakes were perfect for two laps, many road cars can't take two laps at the Ring, so still impressive.

Look forward to the Ring laptime for the Z06, many parts are repaved last year and more this year so if they find a nice clear cool day it should be much faster than a GT3RS (6:49, I was there that day). On paper at least so let's find out.

Sorry for the bad video quality after Youtube upload.
Imagine the sound of a N/A Flat crank V8 @ 9000RPM from this view point :-)
I did see a few Corvettes, but couldn't tell electric ZR1 or Z06 etc..
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Barfbag_vette
Nissan GTRs have been "porky" at around 3800+ lbs since 2008. Plenty of those cars at the track turning massively fast lap times.
Crazy fast, but it felt heavy on a race track and wasn't the best feeling car.. But yeah, crazy impressive regardless for such a heavy car since 2008 (Had one)
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BTW, just checked the GT4RS should come in at 3230 with a full tank of gas, so it is possible.
And the GT3RS with the same engine, gearbox (ratio's?) and brakes still only weight about 40lbs more.
All the GT3RS has going for it is adjustability in damping, diff and aero from the steering wheel, but I don't know that 150-175HP and a load of Torque less can be countered with adjustability and 500lbs less than the Z06..

I expect that I will like to drive the Z06 the most from what I can read, exciting times..
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From a trite weight thread to another trite look at what Porsche does at the ring thread.

Only here at the Corvette Forum.
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Old Dec 17, 2022 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
FOMO marketing BS to pump the price ala bitcoin.
Nobody is ordering GT3s. They will be lucky if they sell 100 MY23 units.
Originally Posted by Telepierre
From a trite weight thread to another trite look at what Porsche does at the ring thread.

Only here at the Corvette Forum.
Funny, you seem to turn all of these threads into trite Porsche sales figures threads.
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Old Dec 17, 2022 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by vrybad
Funny, you seem to turn all of these threads into trite Porsche sales figures threads.
Correct and it's the right time do do it because now I have data at hand that shows that all the 'weight' proselyters that were clamoring that the market did not care about power and torque but it was all about weight and gearing NOW have to face their own dog food.

And the GT3 is the quintessential example of the market not buying the car stripping and back to retro narrative.
It was seductive for sure but the market is showing a different reality.

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Looks like the e-Ray will be at least 200 lbs heavier.
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Originally Posted by GTS Bruce
Looks like the e-Ray will be at least 200 lbs heavier.
Turns out I have started a thread on this very subject: Little bird told me it's all about curb weight - CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion

The NSX currently represents one of the production and homologated state of the art the Eray could use as a reference. The NSX is 3970 pounds.
I am going to update that thread with the McLaren Artura US curb weight. I am sure that would be a very hard curb weight to beat or come close to.
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Old Dec 18, 2022 | 11:41 AM
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Corvette C8 Complainer:

Factory Weight. 8 lbs. 5 oz.

Track ready weight 18 yrs used. 176 lbs

Weight at time of complaint. : 211 lbs. 11 oz.
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Old Dec 18, 2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by international blue
Corvette C8 Complainer:

Factory Weight. 8 lbs. 5 oz.

Track ready weight 18 yrs used. 176 lbs

Weight at time of complaint. : 211 lbs. 11 oz.
You are going to have to eat a whole lot of pizzas to make a new 500 lbs lighter curb weight GT3 have the same laden weight as any adult driving a new Z06. Heavy track cars eat brakes and tires.
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Old Dec 18, 2022 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by descartesfool
You are going to have to eat a whole lot of pizzas to make a new 500 lbs lighter curb weight GT3 have the same laden weight as any adult driving a new Z06. Heavy track cars eat brakes and tires.
I actually know that extremely unbalanced cars like rear engine cars actually consume even more tires and brakes.
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
I actually know that extremely unbalanced cars like rear engine cars actually consume even more tires and brakes.
My Lotus Elise wasn’t too bad on tires or brakes. It was over 60% on the rear wheels.
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Old Dec 18, 2022 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer X
My Lotus Elise wasn’t too bad on tires or brakes. It was over 60% on the rear wheels.
I took what he meant to be about handling balance. My C7 GS.R is very loose so it burns up rear tires twice as fast as fronts. It's from the back end sliding a lot rather than wheel spin.
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Old Dec 18, 2022 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
I actually know that extremely unbalanced cars like rear engine cars actually consume even more tires and brakes.
Guys on Rennlist talk about rear tire wear all the time with the 911's due to the rear wheel steering.
That, combined with greater weight over the rear tires, I can see increased wear, though not necessarily to the brakes.
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