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Just heard back from Mike at Soler Performance and they have finally tested their Throttle Controller (the one they engineered for the C8) and have confirmed it works for the new Z06. (his email back to me is below)
have used Soler on both my previous C7 GS and my C8Z51 and I am convinced this is hands down the best bang for the buck you can get for your car. That throttle lag that is purposely built into these cars (yes even in track mode) can be eliminated. This will be my first upgrade once I am done with the break in period of time.
NOTE: I am in no way affiliated with Soler Performance I am just a big fan of this particular product.
A larger TB would do the same thing and then some? There 95mm or 100mm with the adapter, wish they do some dyno runs.
Yes, it will but this is a super easy modification that really wakes the car up and provides far better response with the HP the car already makes. Ultimately doing both is the best combo but just the throttle controller is a night and day difference and the ability to customize throttle response to your liking via the app.
A larger TB would do the same thing and then some? There 95mm or 100mm with the adapter, wish they do some dyno runs.
Twin 86mm TBs on the LT6.
The controller is adjustable so the owner picks the curve they want. The TB isn't adjustable. Whether larger TBs will provide more HP is an experiment waiting to be done.
The controller is adjustable so the owner picks the curve they want. The TB isn't adjustable. Whether larger TBs will provide more HP is an experiment waiting to be done.
this. The TB (which is completely untested on this car that I know of) and a throttle controller are (2) completely separate things. While bigger TB *may possible give more power, using a custom setting on the throttle controller will make the car "feel" faster because the initial lag is gone...definitely more responsive. I owned numerous Vettes and all have been modified to some degree and I will stand by my statement that Bang for the Buck a TC is one of the best performance mods with no downside.
Does the C8 Z06 have this 'throttle lag that is purposely built' as well? I can feel the delay in regular C8, and its obviously purposedly built in, because non of my past GM LS/LT cars had those. I was hoping that GM would remove it from the z06.
Does this mod just plug in-line with existing wiring/ connectors?
At least in the ZLE, Hellcat, and Hellcat Redeye you disconnect the connector at the base of the throttle pedal and connect in the wire harness (input and output) from the throttle controller. So yes, it should just plug in-line with the existing connectors.
Need to disconnect / reconnect after leaving the key away from the vehicle and leaving the door open for 10 or more minutes so that you don't throw a code (or ignore and clear the code if you have that capability) when first installed.
The throttle controller intercepts the drive by wire signal, applies a curve (or algorithm) according to what the throttle controller is set to (economy, city, sport, sport +, etc. and level) while also removing the lag.
I've used the Soler Performance Throttle Controller (and throttle body) in the ZLE and the Pedal Commander Throttle Controller in my Chargers. I believe that there was an initial calibration process that also needed to be performed so that the controller had the low and high range of the throttle signal.
this. The TB (which is completely untested on this car that I know of) and a throttle controller are (2) completely separate things. While bigger TB *may possible give more power, using a custom setting on the throttle controller will make the car "feel" faster because the initial lag is gone...definitely more responsive. I owned numerous Vettes and all have been modified to some degree and I will stand by my statement that Bang for the Buck a TC is one of the best performance mods with no downside.
Hiya Nitro-C5, Perhaps you can clarify something. I hate when OEMs mess with linear throttle response to either make their car feel more sporty or try to keep idiot owners out of trouble.
Does this controller give me the ability to just get a linear throttle response with no BS? I want to be able to control the car at the limit with my right foot without games operating either to soften or artificially goose the throttle response. Thanks!
Hiya Nitro-C5, Perhaps you can clarify something. I hate when OEMs mess with linear throttle response to either make their car feel more sporty or try to keep idiot owners out of trouble.
Does this controller give me the ability to just get a linear throttle response with no BS? I want to be able to control the car at the limit with my right foot without games operating either to soften or artificially goose the throttle response. Thanks!
So for clarification sake I have NOT yet installed my my Z06. That said I used a Soler TC on both my Modified/Supercharged C7 Grand Sport and my previous C8 Z51 and I can tell you the difference is pretty significant. To answer your question specifically, it will allow you to dial in everything from "Economy" setting, to Comfort, Sport, Race, Ludicrous (which really is ludicrous) and even a Valet mode etc...with each one having additional tuning in setting range of 1-9. So like 50 or so total setting to dial in everyone perfectly pending on how you like to drive and the conditions. Previously I ran my C8 on like "Sport 3" all of the time then changed over to I believe like "Race 2" when I did track events. The amount of customization is very impressive and the best part is the devices hooks up to blue tooth and can be adjusted by a phone app! The main advantage is the lag goes away (or atleast did on my previous cars)
@fzust This is Soler's graph showing how the modes respond. It's linear, but with a kink to make the car more responsive and lower input levels. "CF" is comfort, SP = sport, EC = economy. There are additional settings within these levels (e.g., sport levels 1 -5).
Does this mod just plug in-line with existing wiring/ connectors?
Originally Posted by westsdad
At least in the ZLE, Hellcat, and Hellcat Redeye you disconnect the connector at the base of the throttle pedal and connect in the wire harness (input and output) from the throttle controller. So yes, it should just plug in-line with the existing connectors.
Need to disconnect / reconnect after leaving the key away from the vehicle and leaving the door open for 10 or more minutes so that you don't throw a code (or ignore and clear the code if you have that capability) when first installed.
The throttle controller intercepts the drive by wire signal, applies a curve (or algorithm) according to what the throttle controller is set to (economy, city, sport, sport +, etc. and level) while also removing the lag.
Yes correct. It is a simple plug and play. The hardest part of me it because of the size of my shoulders (and the fact I have had shoulder replacement and limited mobility) it is a very tight fit getting up underneath the dash to run the wire from the pedal to a mounting surface. If I were smaller and/or had better shoulder mobility I could do the entire switch out in about 15 minutes. Only a few basic hand tools needs, pretty simple really.
Yes correct. It is a simple plug and play. The hardest part of me it because of the size of my shoulders (and the fact I have had shoulder replacement and limited mobility) it is a very tight fit getting up underneath the dash to run the wire from the pedal to a mounting surface. If I were smaller and/or had better shoulder mobility I could do the entire switch out in about 15 minutes. Only a few basic hand tools needs, pretty simple really.
Let us know once you get it installed on your Z and how it works for you. Also where you install the control board (if that is a requirement- or can you just not install it and use the app exclusively?).
Does the C8 Z06 have this 'throttle lag that is purposely built' as well? I can feel the delay in regular C8, and its obviously purposedly built in, because non of my past GM LS/LT cars had those. I was hoping that GM would remove it from the z06.
I've driven a Z06 only once, and felt the lag was pretty significant in Tour mode, but much less so in Sport. i'd wait and try the Z06 without it and see if you're satisfied with the stock settings. I *think* I'd be satisfied with the stock response in Sport.
Yes correct. It is a simple plug and play. The hardest part of me it because of the size of my shoulders (and the fact I have had shoulder replacement and limited mobility) it is a very tight fit getting up underneath the dash to run the wire from the pedal to a mounting surface. If I were smaller and/or had better shoulder mobility I could do the entire switch out in about 15 minutes. Only a few basic hand tools needs, pretty simple really.
This yet another reason to have children, or nieces and nephews. Or maybe a small significant other.
Yes correct. It is a simple plug and play. The hardest part of me it because of the size of my shoulders (and the fact I have had shoulder replacement and limited mobility) it is a very tight fit getting up underneath the dash to run the wire from the pedal to a mounting surface. If I were smaller and/or had better shoulder mobility I could do the entire switch out in about 15 minutes. Only a few basic hand tools needs, pretty simple really.
I've driven a Z06 only once, and felt the lag was pretty significant in Tour mode, but much less so in Sport. i'd wait and try the Z06 without it and see if you're satisfied with the stock settings. I *think* I'd be satisfied with the stock response in Sport.
I notice little to zero lag in both my C8 Z06s in sport / track mode. I don’t think it’s necessary…
Update: Soler Performance Throttle Controller
this. The TB (which is completely untested on this car that I know of) and a throttle controller are (2) completely separate things. While bigger TB *may possible give more power, using a custom setting on the throttle controller will make the car "feel" faster because the initial lag is gone...definitely more responsive. I owned numerous Vettes and all have been modified to some degree and I will stand by my statement that Bang for the Buck a TC is one of the best performance mods with no downside.
