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Damn! Imagine you're part of the Corvette team and Tadge tells you unless you're within 10% of the lap time of the top driver, you aint working on this car.
Just for perspective, that's 12 seconds on a 2 minute lap. That's an eternity on track.
If you look at their methodology, this was not possible. They didn't actually have a 458 to test. They just pulled their data from an old road test and compared it to what the Z06 put down a couple of months ago. Lazy journalism for sure. But obtaining a 458 that the owner would let them drive near the limits on public roads is easier said than done.
Previous test result are fine to compare with. There is no sense to debate and split hairs over a tenth of a second that no one would ever be able to feel in the real world.
How often do any of us do full blown, all out, ***** to the wall, launches on the street in 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs on the street where all these cars are operated 99.99% of the time. 2.5 vs 2.6 or 2.7 seconds is simply academic and does not matter as these cars are all stupid fast with capabilities that are wildly in excess of what the overwhelming percentage of adopters are capable of utilizing.
Thermal expansion is in the hundreds of an inch. Gaps between the bumper and fenders are bare minimum, anywhere from rubbing to maybe 1/32", ends of panels do not line up - not consistent. Gaps between panels that move (doors, hatch, hood, top) range between 1/8" to 1/4" - not consistent. These are the issues and you cannot explain it away by material expansion.
Frankly, I don't really care, I didn't buy my Vette to match panel gaps with a Porsche, I understand it is what it is. I would even trade 1/4" gaps all around for a 300 lbs drop in curb weight.
We buy our Vettes for its performance value for the money. No contest.
I HAVE a C8. I simply explained to a poster that ANY SMC bodied car cannot have the tight panel gaps of a steel car. Panel gaps are not a big deal to me as my C8 is my 6th Corvette!
I think most folks' gripe with this 'article' is that the development team benchmarked the Ferrari for 'driving enjoyment and character' whereas the Porsche 911 GT2 RS was purported to be the 'numbers' benchmark. So a more relevant piece of writing would've compared the numbers of the Porsche to the Z06.
2023 Corvette Z06 beats both Lamborghini Evo and Ferrari 458
this is what we have been waiting for..... supper car performance even with an amateur girl driver
I wish GM had released this car to the public already. Stop f...ing around and enough teasing us with these awesome videos. With 670hp and 0-60 in 2.2 seconds, and half of the cost, GM is aware the c8Z06 will put a big dent in the supercars European car market... "I don't know why the long delay??"
on another note, I can't wait to see the c8 Zora, anticipate it to be the Bugatti of GM cars . 1000 hp hybrid all-wheel drive , that might be the only car that can beat the tesla model S 0-60 in 1.99 seconds the quickest time
I take this video with a grain of salt. She is close with GM and automatically bias in her videos. Not only did I see the other cars intentionally slow down in some instances to let the c8 catch up a little, but the 458 driver was in manual mode and was shifting extremely poorly. I only watched the video once so I don't know if the same happened with the Lambo, but it doesn't make sense to me that any of the cars should be in a different configuration. Otherwise, you lose accuracy in the test. All 3 should have been in auto mode to rule out as much human error as possible.
I'd like the same race with someone else besides her, and with people who can actually drive the other cars.
Well share see how these 2 cars fair against each other? Advantage to the GT3 RS. Better comparison would be the base GT3 imo. Nevertheless, win win for all the owners of these awesome machines!
Love the wheels/rims.
It will be very interesting watch this on the 'ring. Imagine 2.5x the downforce of the C8Z07 and probably the same or less drag. I imaging it will thoroughly stomp the C8Z07, but that's OK.
Imagine a ZR-1 with LT6 plus electric or TT plus electric. Imagine now the Zora as the GT2/3-RS destroyer 'ring king. Light-weighting, Active Aero, more power. Yes please. Ford GT?? Bitch, please! LOL
this is what we have been waiting for..... supper car performance even with an amateur girl driver
I wish GM had released this car to the public already. Stop f...ing around and enough teasing us with these awesome videos. With 670hp and 0-60 in 2.2 seconds, and half of the cost, GM is aware the c8Z06 will put a big dent in the supercars European car market... "I don't know why the long delay??"
on another note, I can't wait to see the c8 Zora, anticipate it to be the Bugatti of GM cars . 1000 hp hybrid all-wheel drive , that might be the only car that can beat the tesla model S 0-60 in 1.99 seconds the quickest time
I'm going with the " negative ghostwriter" on the 2.2 0-60
most drivers IMO on streets will be getting 2.6-2.7 slightly better than the base C8
The 2.2 0-60 is 100% inaccurate. The on board PDR is known to read fast on times. a 2.2 0-60 is most likely a 2.6 or slower realistically if measuring with a more accurate tool like a Dragy.
I agree the theory on TTs is relatively easy. I have experience with the AMGs TTs. No doubt 720 lb/ft can be done. I just don't see the Corvette guys doing it on a track warranty car...
For the top speed issue, I agree the car needs a substantial torque bump but for the 220 ish to beat the C7 ZR1 I suppose 600-650 lb/ft 830 HP would suffice?
C7 ZR1 was officially 212 MPH although one of its passes was up near 215.
For months, this small, VERY vocal group whined about weight, gearing, the cost of Cup 2R's, and last but not least... NO reviews.
Now, we have reviews by the dozens, and they don't believe them. You just can't make this stuff up.
The 2.2 0-60 is 100% inaccurate. The on board PDR is known to read fast on times. a 2.2 0-60 is most likely a 2.6 or slower realistically if measuring with a more accurate tool like a Dragy.
The C8 is in it's 4th year of production. I have NEVER heard that the "PDR is known to read fast on times". Where did that come from?
Seriously? The PDR reads almost a half second FAST (at best, according to you) on a 0-60 time? Should we also ignore all the road course times published using PDR data from numerous C7's and C8's?
The C8 is in it's 4th year of production. I have NEVER heard that the "PDR is known to read fast on times". Where did that come from?
Seriously, the PDR reads a half second FAST....C'mon
Because it does. Mine is always a tenth or two better than a draggy or slip. It's close but it always gives you the benefit of the doubt.
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