Originally Posted by sumapathi

Do you guys remember the time when cash was king, if you had the money or the credit, you could walk into a Chevrolet dealer and buy the car you want, z06, whatever..... then COVID happened and all of a sudden, cash is ****, that is the reason, I just stopped looking, now it looks like the trend is changing....

I feel like we were at 50k over sticker for a z06 brand new, now I hear a lot of 10k over sticker; I test drove a used z06 and the guy called me back..... 3 times today; feels familiar, like the old times..... boy does it feel good.

I think things are getting better, I know most of you on the forum are buyers/owners and don't like being treated like crap for the last 3 to 4 year.....

allocations, waiting lists, black market, premium, sounds like India when I was growing up.

Do you guys think the market will even out, what time frame do you think it will take to get to a balanced market; will we ever see 10k under sticker for a new z06(that is not canary yellow).

I would love to hear your thoughts.

Originally Posted by zich6

In North Idaho, 60 miles from the Canadian border, ALL electric vehicles don't work. We have paltry charging station options of any kind and we're smart enough, probably due to natural selection, to know no one wants to be caught in a blizzard with an EV. Perhaps others are devoid of that natural instinct, but they're not in the northern climes.

Originally Posted by 3LZR21U

Valid. But also completely irrelevant for his point, since the ER isn't an EV or even a plug-in hybrid. If it's so cold the hybrid drive doesn't work--congratulations, you have a RWD LT2 powered Corvette.

Originally Posted by GrandSport 2017

I think, just an opinion here, that the Eray is going to to be a foot note in 10 years from now. People are going to say "hey remember when GM put that stupid electric motor on the front wheels of the Vette".

You guys aren't ready for whats coming. The LT6 isn't the engine that is to make the Vette a true super car.

Originally Posted by zich6

In North Idaho, 60 miles from the Canadian border, ALL electric vehicles don't work. We have paltry charging station options of any kind and we're smart enough, probably due to natural selection, to know no one wants to be caught in a blizzard with an EV. Perhaps others are devoid of that natural instinct, but they're not in the northern climes.

Originally Posted by zich6

Wrong. It requires a charging station. Therefore, it's completely inappropriate for northern climes and that a fact.

Originally Posted by zich6

Wrong. It requires a charging station. Therefore, it's completely inappropriate for northern climes and that a fact.

Originally Posted by chevyrules727

Is this sarcasm, just posting to stir people up, or do you truly not know the details of the E-Ray and hear,” electrified” and just assume it is an EV and then tell people they are wrong when they try to correct you?

E-Ray is a hybrid. Not an EV, not a plug in hybrid, but a straight up hybrid like the Prius. As in its self-sustaining. No plugging in possible. Car recharges the battery itself through regen braking.

Of course unlike the Prius where being a hybrid is meant to improve fuel economy, E-Ray’s hybrid system is 100% about performance.

Originally Posted by zich6

What part about needing a charging station when none exist and the average temps in winter is 25 degrees is hard to understand? What point can you possibly make for an EV in this environment?

Originally Posted by NORTY

Actual in-house cost to build the LS9 was $6144.

Originally Posted by zich6

Wrong. It requires a charging station. Therefore, it's completely inappropriate for northern climes and that's a fact.

Originally Posted by chevyrules727

Because when it comes to the E-Ray, it’s irrelevant.

It doesn’t need a charging station, it’s not an EV, you don’t plug it in at all.

EV’s have no bearing on this discussion. They were never brought up.

Originally Posted by zich6

Does it not have a 1.9KW battery that will fail in much colder temps? As you likely know, batteries simply do not hold a charge in extremely cold weather. Understand now?

Originally Posted by zich6

Does it not have a 1.9KW battery that will fail in much colder temps? As you likely know, batteries simply do not hold a charge in extremely cold weather. Understand now?

Originally Posted by GrandSport 2017

I think, just an opinion here, that the Eray is going to to be a foot note in 10 years from now. People are going to say "hey remember when GM put that stupid electric motor on the front wheels of the Vette".



You guys aren't ready for whats coming. The LT6 isn't the engine that is to make the Vette a true super car.

Originally Posted by zich6

Does it not have a 1.9KW battery that will fail in much colder temps? As you likely know, batteries simply do not hold a charge in extremely cold weather. Understand now?

Originally Posted by chevyrules727

You have to be trolling or your account was compromised.

Ok great.... the battery doesn't perform its best in cold temps. So you don't get 0-60 runs in 2.5 seconds. You can still drive it because it still has the LT2 V8 powering the car.

But at least you backtracked from needing a charging station......

Originally Posted by EvanZR1

You really just need to stop as you really don't seem to understand how hybrid tech works. We live in Omaha, and my wife's plug-in hybrid Cadillac ELR works just fine in the winter. Yes, in super cold temps (i.e. when it's under 10F) we'll see up to about a 30% loss in capacity on the battery, but it still works just fine. A hybrid (plug-in like our ELR, or not like the Eray) vehicle's gas engine will still function normally even if the battery is completely dead, that's the primary benefit of a hybrid desgin.

Originally Posted by 3LZR21U

Wow. So no vehicle can operate in cold temperatures, since their 12v battery will be inoperative and not work the starter. I learned something.

Also, people buy Corvettes for fuel economy, and an ER being relegated to ICE-only power (at least temporarily) drops fuel economy down to 3 MPG. I did not know that either.

Originally Posted by robob

"You really just need to stop as you really don't seem to understand how hybrid tech works."

Yeah, I'm leaning towards his account has been compromised. I did alert the mods that he may need assistance.

Hope he is OK,
Robert