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Old 04-25-2024, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkDiverZ06
Whatever happened to the days when everyone wanted a smaller, lighter Corvette? I want a $200k, 4000lb ZR1 like I want another hole in the head.
I am with you on this.
Old 04-25-2024, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkDiverZ06
Whatever happened to the days when everyone wanted a smaller, lighter Corvette? I want a $200k, 4000lb ZR1 like I want another hole in the head.
At least the roll racing crowd will be happy.

But i'm sure they'll complain about something. Oh the new air ducts look funny. The price is 3,995 too much. I don't like the sound. I'm going to wait for the next variant!!!
Old 04-25-2024, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by skank
...That of course is compressing cold air during that length which is essentially a supercharging (Cold air) process..
That is a very far stretch to consider that "supercharging"...


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I do believe creating a plenum tube like what's shown on the CAD file image can only be done with 3D printing. Think about accuracy of a progressively reduced conical shaped tube that is the bending and deforming its shape into a progressive ellipse shape then returning to a perfectly round shape on either end. Then polishing the internal surface to a smooth mirror like finish using magnetic polishing grit. This is getting into Formula 1 type technologies !
There are methods for making such a tube with plastic relatively easy (IE blow molding). They make plastic pop bottles this way.
They can also make it out of composites like carbon fiber with mandrels that can be either melted or water dissolved, or by using split molds.
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It's going to have twin turbos, a supercharger, NOS, and rocket propulsion.
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Old 04-25-2024, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JockItch
It's going to have twin turbos, a supercharger, NOS, and rocket propulsion.
And 5 electric motors! One at each wheel, and one between the engine and trans!
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I suspect ZR1 will be a TT RWD setup and they'll sprinkle in electrification for the Zora. If the ZR1 had any of the eRay bits we'd see the cooling for the eDrive/battery up front like eRay.
Old 04-25-2024, 12:13 PM
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Has anyone explained what the "SC Turbo" could mean given this isn't likely a spoof as explained in the video?

Old 04-25-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidC84B
I suspect ZR1 will be a TT RWD setup and they'll sprinkle in electrification for the Zora. If the ZR1 had any of the eRay bits we'd see the cooling for the eDrive/battery up front like eRay.
Agree

I would really like to see a lightweight version, in the manner of the C6Z06. Take some weight out of the beast. Maybe a GS model.
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Originally Posted by switchlanez
Has anyone explained what the "SC Turbo" could mean given this isn't likely a spoof as explained in the video?

A turbocharger, is an exhaust driven centrifugal supercharger. Thus it is a supercharged engine. There are also belt driven centrifugal superchargers and belt and gear driven positive displacement superchargers.
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Old 04-25-2024, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by switchlanez
Has anyone explained what the "SC Turbo" could mean given this isn't likely a spoof as explained in the video?

if you've ever studied a GM ECM table it uses SC and Turbo interchangeablely to indicate forced induction....nothing new here....
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That video wins stupid post of the year award… NO, it will NOT be “supercharged and turbo’s” the crap people come up with, geez
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SC and Turbo is interchangeable on GM parts database. Blackwing shows supercharger, we all know it is turbocharged.
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Old 04-25-2024, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JMB
if you've ever studied a GM ECM table it uses SC and Turbo interchangeablely to indicate forced induction....nothing new here....
Can you please show me a reference? Not denying that you could be right. Just that the guy in the video addressed your exact argument. He researched into it and found it to not be true. I'm only seeking truth here.
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SC and Turbo is interchangeable on GM parts database. Blackwing shows supercharger, we all know it is turbocharged.
Can you show me which one that's listed as SC but is actually turbo? Because Blackwing isn't exclusively turbocharged. This one is supercharged.
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4v blackwing is turbo'd
5v blackwing is supercharged
Old 04-25-2024, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by switchlanez
Can you please show me a reference? Not denying that you could be right. Just that the guy in the video addressed your exact argument. He researched into it and found it to not be true. I'm only seeking truth here.
Not sure why I wasted my time posting this because the YouTuber is an idiot...
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Originally Posted by ChevyChad
It is obvious a lot of responders here did not watch the video.

While i think its a huge stretch, the guy does make some good points.

And for those of you who did not watch, one little tidbit of info was that GM filed a patent for a dual charger engine with both a turbocharger and an electric supercharger with a CVT transmission. Definitely a unique and novel idea.

I'm still skeptical of this theory because we already have CAD leaks of a twin turbo DOHC C8 setup.
Definitely not on the C8 ZR1.

Originally Posted by skank
We have been informed that GM President Mark Reuss commented during a Dealer preview of the ZR1 that the LT7 engine was turbocharged. Looking at the Code Name Zerv leaked CAD files showing the LT7 engine we can clearly see that the Turbo's appear to be dual stage turbos down low. We can also see what appears to be 3D printed air plenum tubes that are approximately 4-5 inches in diameter at the blue air box and 2-3 inches in diameter where they connect to the dual stage turbos. Looking at that plenum tube that starts at a larger cross section of air volume being reduced progressively through the entire length at a constant reduced rate until it connects to the turbo. That of course is compressing cold air during that length which is essentially a supercharging (Cold air) process. I'm not sure if those two curved tubes wrapping around each side of that LT7 would be a precision casting or would it be 3D printed. I assume the interior of those tubes would have to be ultra smooth for low air friction. All fun conjecture on my part where we will find out soon enough !
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Originally Posted by JMB
Not sure why I wasted my time posting this because the YouTuber is an idiot...
Call him whatever names you want, that proves nothing but your emotions. At least he's a specific idiot. Got any specific engine model designators inline with those dropdown options in your screenshot? Because that's what his examples do which is also how "SC TURBO" is listed specifically in line with "LT7."





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I think SC stands for split compression. It’ll have split compression turbochargers. More efficient and better gas mileage
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Originally Posted by PuffC8
I think SC stands for split compression. It’ll have split compression turbochargers. More efficient and better gas mileage
Now there's a better argument than a pic of a vague dropdown menu or calling people idiots. Is there any GM documentation specifically referring to a "split compression" or "SC" turbo? So far the terminology I'm finding is dual volute and Variable Compression (VC). Trying to find any patent. I recall dual volute being used in the Colorado's new turbo 2.7L I4.

The MR2 implemented that in the 90s, way ahead of its time. It was called Twin-Scroll.
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Originally Posted by switchlanez
Now there's a better argument than a pic of a vague dropdown menu or calling people idiots. Is there any GM documentation specifically referring to a "split compression" or "SC" turbo? So far the terminology I'm finding is dual volute and Variable Compression (VC). Trying to find any patent. I recall dual volute being used in the Colorado's new turbo 2.7L I4.

The MR2 implemented that in the 90s, way ahead of its time. It was called Twin-Scroll.
I've been saying it'll have twin scroll turbos and track overboost function. We'll know soon enough


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