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Le Mans Master
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From: Toronto
Le Mans Master
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From: Lake Simcoe..... Back in Black baby!!!
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I'm no Steve McQueen, but pretty sure I could have driven the car out of that situation 
Look at his steering wheel position just before impact 
Look at his steering wheel position just before impact
Race Director
Joined: May 2007
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From: Feverish All Over
Hope he was not hurt....
There has been a lot of "Service Active Handling" issues as of late with the C6 - and I mean not just an annoying message popping up on the DIC, but cars doing strange things like crazy brake applications on its own.
Could have been???
There has been a lot of "Service Active Handling" issues as of late with the C6 - and I mean not just an annoying message popping up on the DIC, but cars doing strange things like crazy brake applications on its own.
Could have been???
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Toronto ON
Among the YT comments was a reference to the front tire burning up at about 43 seconds into the video. This screen shot does show it ignite.... so much for cold tires, or just too cold too early?
This would never happen if the Corvette was a true modern-day AWD performance car, and precisely IMHO why it should never be. IOW it still requires a driver to deliver skillful (and tactful) inputs.
So I would guess there would be zero insured coverage for this fellow, since it's in a racing mode? Looks like significant damage and chassis tweaking going on.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Kitchener Ontario
Among the YT comments was a reference to the front tire burning up at about 43 seconds into the video. This screen shot does show it ignite.... so much for cold tires, or just too cold too early?
This would never happen if the Corvette was a true modern-day AWD performance car, and precisely IMHO why it should never be. IOW it still requires a driver to deliver skillful (and tactful) inputs.
So I would guess there would be zero insured coverage for this fellow, since it's in a racing mode? Looks like significant damage and chassis tweaking going on.
Le Mans Master
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From: Lake Simcoe..... Back in Black baby!!!
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That's a cone that he ran over, not the tire burning up. Pure driver error. He didn't squeeze the throttle he punched it and since the tires and track were still cold, he lost traction. When he started to loose it he panicked and the car went right towards the curb where he was looking.....his eyes dropped, instead of looking up and where he wanted to go. Hopefully he was ok, but that's some major damage to the car.
Melting Slicks
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From: Kitchener Ontario
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Burning Brakes
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From: Kanata ON.
That's a cone that he ran over, not the tire burning up. Pure driver error. He didn't squeeze the throttle he punched it and since the tires and track were still cold, he lost traction. When he started to loose it he panicked and the car went right towards the curb where he was looking.....his eyes dropped, instead of looking up and where he wanted to go. Hopefully he was ok, but that's some major damage to the car.
John
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The initial cause of the oversteer was that he hammered the
Throttle backend broke loose, instead of balancing
The throttle and counter steering, he lifted
And then the weight transfer exacerbated the problem to
Induce snap or lift off oversteer.
Those cars with the engines in the back are more prone
To these types of issues, fortunately the newer models are far better.
This was driver error, but placing the cones so close to
The sidewalk left very little margin for error.
Throttle backend broke loose, instead of balancing
The throttle and counter steering, he lifted
And then the weight transfer exacerbated the problem to
Induce snap or lift off oversteer.
Those cars with the engines in the back are more prone
To these types of issues, fortunately the newer models are far better.
This was driver error, but placing the cones so close to
The sidewalk left very little margin for error.
Drifting
Joined: Dec 2004
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From: Oshawa Ontario
I was instructing in a Camaro that came around in a similar fashion coming out of 5B at Mosport and went backwards into the wall (left side of the track). When the back end first kicked (throttle oversteer) the driver didn't react properly, and lifted quickly off the gas (from full-ON to full-OFF). The car snapped around so quick, there was not a damn thing you could do then but brace for impact.
That poor C6 in the video ... it's painful to watch
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Instructor
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I know all about snap-oversteer due to lifting, however, that actually looks (or at least "sounds" by the audio) like a full-on THROTTLE oversteer ..... ie: the back end was already on its way around, and it doesn't appear that he was off the throttle 'til the car was already facing the wrong way.
I was instructing in a Camaro that came around in a similar fashion coming out of 5B at Mosport and went backwards into the wall (left side of the track). When the back end first kicked (throttle oversteer) the driver didn't react properly, and lifted quickly off the gas (from full-ON to full-OFF). The car snapped around so quick, there was not a damn thing you could do then but brace for impact.
That poor C6 in the video ... it's painful to watch.
I was instructing in a Camaro that came around in a similar fashion coming out of 5B at Mosport and went backwards into the wall (left side of the track). When the back end first kicked (throttle oversteer) the driver didn't react properly, and lifted quickly off the gas (from full-ON to full-OFF). The car snapped around so quick, there was not a damn thing you could do then but brace for impact.
That poor C6 in the video ... it's painful to watch
.I just watched it again I think I heard a distinct lift
But it's tough to make out given the wind noise and
Other cars on track.
I had a similar oh shyte moment recently
At Shannonville, cool day cold tires tight corner.
Not sure I can post the video, no Corvette content.
Racer
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Uxbridge Ontario
OOP's is a under statement! I hope he is OK as I would think he would want to get out and check to see if he can drive it home. I would hate to see the bill for the suspension pieces he is going to have to replace.
