Big spot on the hood! Thought I got it in time but can't remove the stained spot! Ideas/ suggestions!

 

Clay, polish, protect. A cleaning wax may do the trick.

 

http://www.autogeek.net/bird-dropping-remover.html

remove as soon as possible. If it etched the paint you might need to polish or wet sand the area.

 

This type of post appears all the time on these forums. The damage is done, and then people worry about it. What you seem to be asking here is this IMO: I smashed my car, so how can I fix it myself.

It really amazes me how so many on these forums think wax offers real protection. Here is a perfect example of just one thing wax offers absolutely no protection against. My suggestion to you is this: USE A PROTECTION PRODUCT, NOT WAX.Opti coat would have stopped that problem even if you do not get it off right away. This complete fantasy that all problems like this can be fixed by correction is not realistic at all. Sure, some things cannot be protected against like rock chips, but things like this, birds crap, tree sap, and salt is realistic.Protect your finish with a real long term protection, and not grease.

 

Protect. Against what exactly? I find it strange how people on these forums always suggest suggest this solution. I believe it makes far more sense to apply a real protection were you can wash off the problem instead of wet sanding, and compound the clear coat.

 

Thanks for all the input! By the way, I probably have 10 coats of a Polymer/polish on it and occasionally put a coat of wax on it for a show! If anyone has a product that protects against bird **** stains I'm all ears!

 

I believe I mentioned Opti Coat. Are you listening?

As I suspected it is clear to me what your problem is. Answer: 10 coats of Polymer/polish, plus the coats of wax.Honestly, if you had all that so called protection on your car then WHY would bird crap etch your paint so fast?

Now, you have applied 10 coats of a product that is designed to hold up to more car washes, so why would anyone believe that one wash with Dawn would take all that off. Certainly, doing more of what you are doing will make the problem worse, and extensive correction will follow.

If I were you I would stop putting more coats of whatever you are applying to paint, and apply one coat of one product like Opti Coat that can be washed with real soap to remove dirt and grime, and offer long term real protection.Think of clear coat as a very thin protective and workable coating of plastic. The thicker, smoother and better protected this plastic coating is not only looks better but it will be more durable and longer lasting.As long as the surface damage does not penetrate completely through this layer, the damage can be repaired without repainting. Most clear coatings are around the thickness of a piece of paper 4-7 mils(.004-.007 of an inch) (100-180 microns).

 

Looks like we have a new Opti Coat dealer in the room…….

Zaino Clear Seal is better than Opti Coat and nether of them can stop bird bomb enzymes…….

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...lear-seal.html

 

There is only one fool proof method, a garage……..

 

No, I am not a Opti Coat dealer at all, but simply offering advice which was asked for.

I read the article closely you linked, but where does it say Opti Coat will not stop bird bombs in it? Here is a email on the subject:

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Re: Opti Coat 2.0 vs Bird Poop
Opti Coat 2.0 can take 30+ days to fully harden. It can withstand water within an hour of application, detergents after 24 hours and most chemicals after a week or so. It's likely the incident just happened within this period, but we have seen cases where what looks like etching was actually only a stain in the coating that broke down in the sun and disappeared on its own after a few days. See this thread on our discussion forum:

Bird Bomb Etching - Optimum Coatings - Optimum Forum



I would wait and see if this is the case and if it doesn't disappear, then consider the spot repair. You mentioned that you have already polished the area, so I'm not sure if you will have to recoat or not


Is Opti Coat the only product out there for true protection? No, but I can say without a doubt your statement:and nether of them can stop bird bomb enzymes……. is wrong. I have used a product similar to Opti Coat for many years that I could leave bird bombs for days, and no damage.

 

That is one alternative, but not the only one.

 

~ Any good detailer worth his weight in salt will tell you that there isn't anything you wipe on your car that will protect it from bird dropping enzymes……

And I don't believe ANY reviews from company "product support"……


They all make claims that they can't back up…..

Autogeek is a well known non biased forum vender source for information and they have been in the detailing world for a long time…..

They know their stuff…..

 

I really am not interested in starting an argument over this point, but you are wrong. Most detailers you refer to use wax or poly sealants, so what else could they say about bird bombs. The person that started this post applied 10 coats plus coats of wax, and that did not stop the etching from bird bombs.

Because wax, nor poly sealants are ineffective does not mean there is not a product out there that can hold up to bird bombs.You are more than welcome to have your own opinion on this matter, and because someone like Auto Geek sells every detailing product known to man does not make them an expert in detailing IMO. The word protection gets thrown out on these forums a lot, and my question with most of the products are what exactly do they protect against
exactly? Bugs: No Tree Sap: No Birds Bombs: No.

 

I hate birds!!

 

I understand, but what are you going to do about it? That is the question. You can continue with what you are doing now which is not working, or try some thing else.

The main reason you paint a house exterior is protection against the elements. If the paint did what wax did as far as protection goes no one would bother to spend the money.

You can leave your car in a garage all the time, but if that is not possible then the only alternative is to use a protection like Opti Coat. There are others out there, but you have to do research to find them.

 

You mean Opti-Seal right? Opti-Coat is a whole different thing. And it does have some protection against bird droppings. I was skeptical until I tested it out myself.

 

Opti-coat 2.0 is a semi-permanent coating, not a WOWA sealant like Opti-seal. The newer coatings offer longevity in protection and much more durable that typical waxes and sealants.

 

I believe you are completely wrong on this point.Maybe you should look at Autogeek.net again, so you can relate what the facts really are on this product before you offer advice.



You read it right. Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 is a permanent coating that protects automotive paint over its lifetime! Unlike a wax or sealant, Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 will not wash or wear off.

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-coat.html

 

I'm not being sarcastic , just an honest question! If this stuff is so good wouldn't every other wax/polish competitor be out of business? Just saying!!

 

Wax has been around forever, and since new products have come into the picture people are not sure about them. Most detailing forums
are sponsored by companies that promote wax and correction products,so if you have a different opinion on these products you soon loose your welcome or are banned.

Remember the typewriter, that was the tool of choice for many years. See many around today? That is how I feel about wax. It makes your paint shine and bead water, but today there are products on the market that go far beyond that offer real protection from the elements without constant correction, and using car shampoo to prevent stripping the wax.

You wrote this post looking for help with your bird bomb problem, and you said you were all ears to a solution to this problem which I have tried to offer. Has anyone here offered a better solution besides more of the same?