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Old 04-09-2019, 09:57 AM
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Old 04-09-2019, 11:30 AM
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Thank you for sharing the versatility of such an extremely affordable and effective spray sealant as Nano Shock! As clearly stated in the description you copied and pasted, Nano Shock can be used as a stand-alone sealant OR as a topper. I know you are having a very, very difficult time understanding that, so I will break it down for you using your very own post:

Nanoskin Nano Shock Instant Lubricant Sealant is a spray on sealant - Boom. There you have it. Now, you know what the product is. A "sealant" seals the paint. There is no such thing as a "sealant for wax". LOL

that can also be used as a quick detail spray, waterless wash and lubricant for the Nanoskin Autoscrub System! - "Also". Do you understand what "also" means? In this case, it means the product can be used for multiple tasks, and not just as a stand-alone means of paint protection.

Use Nano Shock regularly to maintain the shine and protection of your wax, sealant or coating. It creates a high-gloss polymer barrier that dissipates static so your vehicle stays cleaner, longer. Regular application will extend your existing paint protection so you don’t have to wax as often. - This is the part of your own copied and pasted description that covers the other tasks that the product can be used for. To make it extra, extra, extra simple for you: If your vehicle is already protected by a wax, a sealant, or a ceramic coating, using this product as a topper will increase the level of protection. I know I am repeating myself again and again for you, but this is what is meant by "a sacrificial layer". Oh, and I know you have been using F11 Topcoat for years now, but you apparently didn't know that it actually can be used on top of wax, sealants, or coatings, just like Nano Shock. Imagine that! Using a spray sealant as a topper? Who knew? "you can apply TopCoat® directly over the current coating without removing it and still gain many of TopCoat’s benefits."
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Old 04-09-2019, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
Lotsa people LOVE Beadmaker; I just hadda know what all the hubub was about so I got a bottle and gave it a try in a few different situations. While it's an entertaining product, I found it functionally useless given my routines but still glad I gave it a go so I had first hand experience.
It is definitely entertaining! I use it as a replacement for my previous Meg's D156 as a topper for my daily driver's base protection---usually as a drying aid after washes. Adds noticeable gloss to my car, and definitely extends the life of my sealant applications. It does a great job keeping the inside of windows fog-free, too. Pretty versatile stuff, and will always have a spot in my garage.
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No problem. Your reality distortion field is apparently working well. To help you should order one of these - it helps the signal come in stronger and will help with your myopia.

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Awwww... Don't post ad hominem comments. It just shows how easily triggered you get. Ignoring each logical rebuttal and going straight for schoolyard remark posting? Awesome! You can actually smell defeat in the air. I know admitting mistakes is tough, especially when your own copied and pasted remarks are used to show them. But, swallowing your pride and "manning up" is always better than the "tuck tail and run" type of replies. Right?


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Once I get to polishing my new-to-me Z06, (I'll use Griot's Boss Correcting and then Boss Perfecting Cream) I plan to either go with straight P&S BeadMaker on naked clear coat...or I might go with a high Carnuba wax like Collonite 915 and then BeadMaker. Either way, BeadMaker is definitely going on the car and will be my go to "top coat spray detailer" as I plan to use it as a drying aid every wash, the stuff is incredible and excellent bang for buck. BeadMaker for the win
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Dear Grzldvt1:

I do not disagree that your value prop as a professional detailer is not maximized using F11. You would prefer your customers to frequent your business much more often than F11 would require them to visit. On the other hand, ceramics pose a proposition where you can maximize a customer visit because the material itself is marketed as a professional application. There are DIY kits, but ceramics need trained techs to do it right and to make it last. And you can charge premium prices for that expertise and labor, and the material itself ($70/oz isn't cheap).

Further, PPF wraps are another high-end protectant being heavily marketed as a professional tech installation that can then be ceramic coated etc.Hard to sell that stuff if the clietel isn't coming in for a detailing every couple of months.

I totally agree that other products and processes help pros to maximize their value proposition. F11 on the other hand is your competitor at least for detailing and ceramics end of it.
I was going to steer clear of this nonsense, but it is blatantly obvious that you, FZ1 are simply not knowledgeable about the detailing world and the actual products available to the public.
Your answer is such total BS,it baffles my mind. If I felt you had a clue I would debate, but you really have no clue.
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This thread reminds me of the great Zaino wars from about 10 - 15 years ago.
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I have used Zaino products on both of my previous Corvettes. At this point in my life, I just don't have the time to put that amount of work into my C6.

Top Coat F11 was purchased and they provided 2 microfiber towels along with a large and small bottle of their product. The shipment arrived three days after the order was placed.

Followed the directions and washed the car then used Mother's claybar on it to get rid of the small imperfections that are always stuck in the clear coat. The claybar work took about 4 hours (yeah... I know, I'm slow. Must be the perfectionist in me....).

The following day, put the Top Coat on and it was literally, spray on, smooth it thoroughly with the first microfiber towel and then take the other one and rub it to a shine. Very easy to come off and it leaves a great shine. Since it's a convertible, it took about an hour and that included the waterfall.

Results were the same as bonzo posted.... you can throw a microfiber towel across the rear deck or hood and it slides right off....

Very happy with the lower amount of work to get the same results as Zaino.

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This thread reminds me of the great Zaino wars from about 10 - 15 years ago.
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No problem. Your reality distortion field is apparently working well. To help you should order one of these - it helps the signal come in stronger and will help with your myopia.

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Once I get to polishing my new-to-me Z06, (I'll use Griot's Boss Correcting and then Boss Perfecting Cream) I plan to either go with straight P&S BeadMaker on naked clear coat...or I might go with a high Carnuba wax like Collonite 915 and then BeadMaker. Either way, BeadMaker is definitely going on the car and will be my go to "top coat spray detailer" as I plan to use it as a drying aid every wash, the stuff is incredible and excellent bang for buck. BeadMaker for the win
You can definitely use it as a stand-alone sealant if you use it often. I prefer to use the method you already mentioned---laying down a base coat of Collinite! I use Collinite 845 as the base protection on my cars before applying any toppers. I know Collinite is considered a hybrid wax product, but whatever sealant they have blended in there makes it extremely durable. It seems to last as long as some pure sealants I have tried. I don't know what color your Z06 is, but the Collinite 915 will add some depth to the paint, and the Bead Maker on top will really increase the gloss. Good protection for the paint, too. Nothing beats the protection and durability of a ceramic coating, but the Collinite/BM combo is nothing to laugh at!

Oh, and please start a new thread with pictures when you tackle this. I have heard good things about the Griot's BOSS creams, and I want to see how the 915/BM combo makes your paint look!
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You can definitely use it as a stand-alone sealant if you use it often. I prefer to use the method you already mentioned---laying down a base coat of Collinite! I use Collinite 845 as the base protection on my cars before applying any toppers. I know Collinite is considered a hybrid wax product, but whatever sealant they have blended in there makes it extremely durable. It seems to last as long as some pure sealants I have tried. I don't know what color your Z06 is, but the Collinite 915 will add some depth to the paint, and the Bead Maker on top will really increase the gloss. Good protection for the paint, too. Nothing beats the protection and durability of a ceramic coating, but the Collinite/BM combo is nothing to laugh at!

Oh, and please start a new thread with pictures when you tackle this. I have heard good things about the Griot's BOSS creams, and I want to see how the 915/BM combo makes your paint look!
My car is a black 2010 Z06. I can start a thread, but first I have to get the heads back on the car (they were sent to AHP in California) and have the car ready to drive. I am doing the head swap myself and polishing the car will be my "reward" after I complete the engine work. I plan to do the Collinite/BM combo this year and see how it goes...if I am not happy, I will definitely consider ceramic coating the car.
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