Aren't all microfiber towels basically the same?
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charley95, as much as I hate to sat "It Depends" on what you are looking for. There are literally hundreds of coating products out there and impossible me to try them all. Because of this one of my staff members is devoted to studying and working with the latest technology in coatings. One of my personal vehicles has 6 different coatings on it. We had to map the car to remember what we did.
At my shop I have a Zaino details at the low end for those on a budget. Absolutely my mainstay product and kicks butt over its competition.
But with all the "nano coatings" coming out, Zaino is getting left behind
[B]Gyeon Q2 MOHs[/B] Without question this is an incredible entry level coating product`for the non professional. Easy to apply and very forgiving and my first level budget nano coating.
I am slowly creeping more and more of the Gyeon line of products into my shop.
Kamikaze Miyabi which is barely above Gyeon, but does show/offer better durability from a water beading (hydrophobic) self cleaning property. Same as above easy to apply and very forgiving.
For longevity and ease of cleaning Ceramic Pro is awesome, but expensive as it is very labor intensive and takes some serious skill to put it on. Henceforth not for the hobbyist.
I have been trained and it still has me running and screaming though the parking lot, due to its difficulty to install. We have finally figured it out and are delivering cars that are perfect, but it was a struggle.
Having said that the cars coming back in with Ceramic Pro have simply been amazing. It is a simple rinse, bugs and bird crap just wipe off.
The others are close, but Ceramic Pro simply beats the competition.
The Cquartz non pro products are not bad, but seem to be falling behind Gyeon.
I have been trying to get into the CQuarts Pro products, but it seems to be a real struggle to get corporate to acknowledge us.
All of this is topped off by Angel Polish Cosmic Spritz to really kick up the shine.
At my shop I have a Zaino details at the low end for those on a budget. Absolutely my mainstay product and kicks butt over its competition.
But with all the "nano coatings" coming out, Zaino is getting left behind
[B]Gyeon Q2 MOHs[/B] Without question this is an incredible entry level coating product`for the non professional. Easy to apply and very forgiving and my first level budget nano coating.
I am slowly creeping more and more of the Gyeon line of products into my shop.
Kamikaze Miyabi which is barely above Gyeon, but does show/offer better durability from a water beading (hydrophobic) self cleaning property. Same as above easy to apply and very forgiving.
For longevity and ease of cleaning Ceramic Pro is awesome, but expensive as it is very labor intensive and takes some serious skill to put it on. Henceforth not for the hobbyist.
I have been trained and it still has me running and screaming though the parking lot, due to its difficulty to install. We have finally figured it out and are delivering cars that are perfect, but it was a struggle.
Having said that the cars coming back in with Ceramic Pro have simply been amazing. It is a simple rinse, bugs and bird crap just wipe off.
The others are close, but Ceramic Pro simply beats the competition.
The Cquartz non pro products are not bad, but seem to be falling behind Gyeon.
I have been trying to get into the CQuarts Pro products, but it seems to be a real struggle to get corporate to acknowledge us.
All of this is topped off by Angel Polish Cosmic Spritz to really kick up the shine.
#62
Thanks G! Appreciate ya taking the time to explain this. My friend does the Adam's ceramic and insists I coat my metallic black. I watched him do Adam's wheel ceramic on his wheels and not real enthused about using it yet. It appears it's like trying to wipe tape residue off with a dry microfiber and then you top it off with their ceramic boost spray. I guess I'll just wait till I'm in the mood to try it out since it's not like wax on wax off. I can usually get a year out of my traditional paint correction so I might give it a try next time. I would've never thought I'd own a black car but with all the advancement of product in the past several years I can make mine look pretty damn good.
You guys in the detail business earn every cent you make!
You guys in the detail business earn every cent you make!
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#63
Ditto! Great info! And I agree, the guys work hard for their money, I see the mobile units in our neighborhood frequently setting up their awnings to detail early to beat the Texas heat. Always fun to see real exotics come out of our neighbors garages. One Detailer joked that in a good week he will drive over a million dollars worth of cars a total distance of 100 feet!
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#66
Burning Brakes
I've been reading thru this thread, but not sure what are the best towels to used on the inside of the windshield? I keep getting that film buildup on the inside, any suggestions on what works the best?
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This to makes it easier to wipe from the inside:
Last edited by joemessman; 02-08-2018 at 04:35 PM.
#68
Burning Brakes
I purchased some microfiber towels specifically for the glass of my C5 from the Rag Company. They pick up streaks in the class very well. By contrast, I keep a 12 inch stack of Walmart/PepBoys/Harbor Freight microfiber towels. These are throwaways. When one gets used enough or stained, I simply put in the the engine/tire wipe down pile, and pull another one from the new cheap-O stack. The throwaways get used elsewhere.
#69
Burning Brakes
My detailer usually gives me a couple of their microfiber towels. Don't know who makes them, but they work fine. He also advised me on how to take care of them (see above, mild detergent, by themselves, low-or-no heat dry, get to slightly damp and fold.
#71
Drifting
I buy all of my towels from the Rag Company, and I have some I bought from Zaino as I am a Zaino user.
Maybe I missed it in all of this reading, but one thing NOT! to do when washing is use HOT! water, it can fuse the fibers together, and you end up with a quality towel that will scratch just like a cheap one.
Maybe I missed it in all of this reading, but one thing NOT! to do when washing is use HOT! water, it can fuse the fibers together, and you end up with a quality towel that will scratch just like a cheap one.
#72
I buy all of my towels from the Rag Company, and I have some I bought from Zaino as I am a Zaino user.
Maybe I missed it in all of this reading, but one thing NOT! to do when washing is use HOT! water, it can fuse the fibers together, and you end up with a quality towel that will scratch just like a cheap one.
Maybe I missed it in all of this reading, but one thing NOT! to do when washing is use HOT! water, it can fuse the fibers together, and you end up with a quality towel that will scratch just like a cheap one.
#73
Drifting
Here is the common consensus of the best. I can vouch for them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J8UQAOI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&ps c
This to makes it easier to wipe from the inside:
https://www.amazon.com/Stoner-Reach-...T9D8BHWNH91897
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J8UQAOI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&ps c
This to makes it easier to wipe from the inside:
https://www.amazon.com/Stoner-Reach-...T9D8BHWNH91897
I also use one of these to clay my glass on the outside, but not in the sun.
http://www.mothers.com/02_products/1...gKe2WEZqv6w.97
#74
Drifting
I did not check mine, but after I was informed of what not to do when at the Griots booth after purchasing the towel I will list below, I looked at some of my Mothers brand yellow towels old next to new & it was noticeable, and I always have followed proper washing practices except I always used hot water, I will see if I can shoot some pictures to show the difference.
I am also hooked on these for drying, I no longer use a waffle, they have the large one or the 2 smaller, I use the smaller ones.
https://www.griotsgarage.com/product...e=&from=Search
I am also hooked on these for drying, I no longer use a waffle, they have the large one or the 2 smaller, I use the smaller ones.
https://www.griotsgarage.com/product...e=&from=Search
#75
I also wonder what dryer temp and dryness you are using.
The dryer temps can reach much higher than water can, especially if you are over-drying them. Slightly under-dry them on a low temp, and then finish drying at room temp (either air-dry cycle or pull them out to dry). They will be much more absorbent that way.
I found the comment earlier about using dryer sheets to make perfect sense. I don't use them at all (or any fabric softeners), but it would make sense that some of the chemicals would still be stuck to the dryer drum just waiting to transfer themselves to the MF towels.
The dryer temps can reach much higher than water can, especially if you are over-drying them. Slightly under-dry them on a low temp, and then finish drying at room temp (either air-dry cycle or pull them out to dry). They will be much more absorbent that way.
I found the comment earlier about using dryer sheets to make perfect sense. I don't use them at all (or any fabric softeners), but it would make sense that some of the chemicals would still be stuck to the dryer drum just waiting to transfer themselves to the MF towels.
#76
Drifting
I also wonder what dryer temp and dryness you are using.
The dryer temps can reach much higher than water can, especially if you are over-drying them. Slightly under-dry them on a low temp, and then finish drying at room temp (either air-dry cycle or pull them out to dry). They will be much more absorbent that way.
I found the comment earlier about using dryer sheets to make perfect sense. I don't use them at all (or any fabric softeners), but it would make sense that some of the chemicals would still be stuck to the dryer drum just waiting to transfer themselves to the MF towels.
The dryer temps can reach much higher than water can, especially if you are over-drying them. Slightly under-dry them on a low temp, and then finish drying at room temp (either air-dry cycle or pull them out to dry). They will be much more absorbent that way.
I found the comment earlier about using dryer sheets to make perfect sense. I don't use them at all (or any fabric softeners), but it would make sense that some of the chemicals would still be stuck to the dryer drum just waiting to transfer themselves to the MF towels.
I am going to try an experiment & wipe down the inside of my dryer drum with some denatured alcohol & see what I get, just curious.