Burnout help...
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Burning Brakes
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Burnout help...
Hi Everyone,
Well I got my drag radials on my 94 stock Coupe, and had some fun my second time out drag racing at Moroso.
So I need some advice on the burnout, when attempting to smoke my tires, I'm a little worried about redlining the engine and causing damage. Do I need to worry about this, or will the built-in rev limiter stop me from breaking my car?
What is happening is I rev to 2500-3000 rpms, dump clutch, and then give it some more gas as I slide over to the brake pedal to stop from moving forwards/sideways (I have no linelock, yet...). In real quick fashion I see the tach move up to 6000 rpm, I get nervous, lay off the gas pedal a little bit (a little too much) and then the tires grab prematurely without being fully heated.
So, do I:
1) Need more practice, and need to just stop giving more gas during the burnout, just keep it at 2500-3000 rpms, or slightly higher?
or 2) through caution to the wind, let my engine roar up to 6000 rpms and hope that she stays together and the rev limiter works?
or some 3rd option that you can educate me with?
Thanks in advance!
John
Well I got my drag radials on my 94 stock Coupe, and had some fun my second time out drag racing at Moroso.
So I need some advice on the burnout, when attempting to smoke my tires, I'm a little worried about redlining the engine and causing damage. Do I need to worry about this, or will the built-in rev limiter stop me from breaking my car?
What is happening is I rev to 2500-3000 rpms, dump clutch, and then give it some more gas as I slide over to the brake pedal to stop from moving forwards/sideways (I have no linelock, yet...). In real quick fashion I see the tach move up to 6000 rpm, I get nervous, lay off the gas pedal a little bit (a little too much) and then the tires grab prematurely without being fully heated.
So, do I:
1) Need more practice, and need to just stop giving more gas during the burnout, just keep it at 2500-3000 rpms, or slightly higher?
or 2) through caution to the wind, let my engine roar up to 6000 rpms and hope that she stays together and the rev limiter works?
or some 3rd option that you can educate me with?
Thanks in advance!
John
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From: Central Florida
You regulate the throttle to govern the rpm at which the engine is spinning the tires. Once they are spinning freely, ease back on the throttle to hold the rpms at say 5000-5500.
Be sure you're in 2d gear, not 1st.
Ranger
Be sure you're in 2d gear, not 1st.
Ranger
Drifting
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From: Richmond VA
It is a delicate balance between holding the brake and keeping the gas pedal steady. In 2nd, I dump the clutch then lightly hold the brake. Get the RPMs to 5k. Hold ONLY enough brake pressure to keep the car from moving forward. If you push the brake too hard, it will bog down; too light and it will move forward.
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From: Palm City Florida
Listen to this man bro!!! He got my Burnout perfected
1. Back into the Waterbox.. The track helper will guide you in..
2. Roll out of it.. Track helper will also guide you out to to where you can start your Burn.
3. Put it in 2nd Gear, flash it up to 5000 rpms and dump the clutch..
4. Immediately get your foot on the brake while holding it OVER 5000..
Once you start smoking and heating up, the car will lose rpms and pull forward on it's own.. you are ready!
Here is a picture that was taken of my Recent Burnout....... on my Street tires..
By the way, don't worry about the rear brakes... Most burnout are what.. 5 - 6 seconds.... Takes longer to stop while braking MUCH harder AFTER your run through the traps..
So Burn on Bro...
Last edited by chuckster; Jan 25, 2007 at 06:04 PM.
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From: 2007 Nat'l Corvette Challenge 11.50 index Champ. New Jersey
Some good advice above from some good racers! I'll pitch in my .02 anyway. I'll assume this is for a slick tire of some sort.
While I burnout in second gear, I'd suggest you start with 1st gear UNTIL you get comfortable with a routine that works for you.
Then I'd start using 2nd gear. 2nd gear gets the tires spinning faster & heats them faster & more so then first gear. The routine is the same for 1st gear or a 2nd gear burnout.
I like to rev up to 5500, dump the clutch & step on over onto the brake, but only hard enough to keep the car from lurching forward. Don't get scared if initially she jumps forward a few feet, or if the rear starts to kick out a bit. Watch the tach & don't let her go below 5000 (with throttle modulation) or you'll likely lose the burnout & possibly stall-embarassing! I've seen people break their rears doing an improper burnout!
Oh, & if you lose it shortly after starting it, don't try it again w/ dry tires!!! Shouldn't be a problem with street tires, as they'll likely be dry anyway.
Once you get some smoke developing, let off the brake & EASE off the throttle, & you'll be surging up towards the starting line ready to race.
Hope this helps!
Ron
While I burnout in second gear, I'd suggest you start with 1st gear UNTIL you get comfortable with a routine that works for you.
Then I'd start using 2nd gear. 2nd gear gets the tires spinning faster & heats them faster & more so then first gear. The routine is the same for 1st gear or a 2nd gear burnout.
I like to rev up to 5500, dump the clutch & step on over onto the brake, but only hard enough to keep the car from lurching forward. Don't get scared if initially she jumps forward a few feet, or if the rear starts to kick out a bit. Watch the tach & don't let her go below 5000 (with throttle modulation) or you'll likely lose the burnout & possibly stall-embarassing! I've seen people break their rears doing an improper burnout!
Oh, & if you lose it shortly after starting it, don't try it again w/ dry tires!!! Shouldn't be a problem with street tires, as they'll likely be dry anyway.
Once you get some smoke developing, let off the brake & EASE off the throttle, & you'll be surging up towards the starting line ready to race.
Hope this helps!
Ron
