Deep Staging @ E Town
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While there is not courtesy staging in the CC at E-town, we do and have always asked our drivers to be courteous to each other.
http://www.corvettechallenge.info/stagingetiquette.php
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DRR went-active again in the last few days, and there is a new thread about goin'-deep in D1 posting now:
http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...7011025753/p/1
http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...7011025753/p/1
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Deep-staging is done when a racer pulls forward, turning-on first the Pre-Stage, then Stage lights at the top of the Christmas Tree, then he rolls forward until the Pre-Stage bulb goes-out:
i.e. - he is IN-DEEP.
This is done in bracket racing to place the rear-edge of the front tire closer to the Stage beam, which stops the Reaction Time clocks, to get a better RT, while Index Racers may do this to get a slower Elapsed Time:
with less rolling-start, or 'roll-out', their ET will slow-down by as-much-as .2 seconds, depending-upon set-up, chassis, gearing, etc.
Professional racers, like Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro Stock, etc., will do this, hoping to distract their opponents at the starting line:
because they work-off a .4 Pro-Tree, when a racer does this, his opponent might 'flinch' and hesitate at the start, or even jump the gun and redlight before the Tree is activated.
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Once one bulb is on AUTOSTART will kick in. Deep stagers must hustle to get in. If there is a reason to hold up a car on the line (wipe up,check oil,dial in etc.) bothe cars will be backed up and restage. You don't have to mark DEEP on your cars any longer. You can deep stage,but it is up to you no to lolliegag and get in there and race.No reruns if you didn't get in etc.
You made who back out someone with two bulbs on.There isn't courtesy staging in the Corvette Challenge. I can see Index racing,but not the CC. Don't look for that to happen in 2008 at RP. Deep stagers you are on your own.
You made who back out someone with two bulbs on.There isn't courtesy staging in the Corvette Challenge. I can see Index racing,but not the CC. Don't look for that to happen in 2008 at RP. Deep stagers you are on your own.
There are other reasons to deep stage beside a "better" light or slowing the car down. 
Last edited by kazman; Jan 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM.
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I was just informed that part of the Div1 rule change includes increasing the Stage-to-Start time from roughly 1 second to 3 seconds. So that gives deep stagers 3 seconds to go from pre-stated to deep. A bit quick, but not totally unreasonable IMO.
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I was told a long time ago that the NHRA rule book does not apply to the powerade contestants and that does seem to be the case...
Please don't get me wrong, I usually don't have a problem with deep staging...just every now and then some "beauty" thinks he can pull a fast one on me...not gonna happen...I had about 80 competition passes last year and was quick treed only twice.....both were intentional and both times I backed them out...not a biggie in my eyes...
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There's going to be 2 races every round. From the burnout box to the line, then the 1/4 race. 
Me, I'm just gona do my thing and keep to my normal routine. I usually test at AR and RP in March. I signed up for points just to see how things go. The RP sunday races don't conflict with either MG or AR. Week before the 4/12 race I'll decide MG or AR along with the RP sunday thing.
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Dan, once you get strip-only type car, and won't be going-around the water-box anymore, it'll be easier to pull-into the water quicker, do your burnout quicker, and get-outta the water quicker, and up to the line first:
I don't know when going between-the-pylons to avoid the water with front tires became fashionable (nobody did it when I was racing every week years-ago ), but that is the biggest problem with your program that I've witnessed in you personally (and others ) getting up to the line quicker/first.
I don't know when going between-the-pylons to avoid the water with front tires became fashionable (nobody did it when I was racing every week years-ago ), but that is the biggest problem with your program that I've witnessed in you personally (and others ) getting up to the line quicker/first.
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Kaz, i think 3 seconds is tight but adequate to go from shallow to deep. Think 1 mississippi, 2 mis.... well you get the picture. A lot of the guys complaining can cut sub 20 trees at will and drive the stripe to within a couple of inches.....you tell'n me they can't figure out how to get deep in 3 seconds, c'mon. The guys that used the 75 bump method are going to have to make some adjustments, but they're probably the ones that started this in the first place.
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I will no longer need to bump in for 2008. I did some modifications so I only need to put both bulbs on without any bumping in. I timed it just right. 
I timed it just right.
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or maybe Someone Did once...
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Kaz, i think 3 seconds is tight but adequate to go from shallow to deep. Think 1 mississippi, 2 mis.... well you get the picture. A lot of the guys complaining can cut sub 20 trees at will and drive the stripe to within a couple of inches.....you tell'n me they can't figure out how to get deep in 3 seconds, c'mon. The guys that used the 75 bump method are going to have to make some adjustments, but they're probably the ones that started this in the first place.
Ralph, yes some are having issues. You have seen the racingresults site. Track owners aren't helping either by telling people to rush to the line, deep is on your own, courtesy staging doesn't exist, etc. Also a lot of deep racers blocked the tree. There are some deep stagers that know they won't have any problems. Fortunatelly one of these guys taught in my bracket racing class.
