???? @ 116 mph
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (lotahp)
Just looked in the Dragtimes database... The fastest that I found was this one:
10.960 @ 116.320, 1/8 6.960 mph 97.380 60' 1.466 Ford Mustang COUPE 1986 B Chandler
There are a few 11.0's with similar mph...
10.960 @ 116.320, 1/8 6.960 mph 97.380 60' 1.466 Ford Mustang COUPE 1986 B Chandler
There are a few 11.0's with similar mph...
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (lotahp)
I ran 11.82 at 116.51 in Bradenton in Aug with a DA around 3500'
My best 116 MPH ET is 11.62 @ 116.11 with an unrecorded DA in October
Hope this helps.
My best 116 MPH ET is 11.62 @ 116.11 with an unrecorded DA in October
Hope this helps.
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (REDGAR)
My best was last March and was 11.86 @ 116mph with a 1.85 60' with my old converter. With my new converter my 60' has been 1.59-1.62 with 28" tall tire. Went back to my "good" old single plane intake and got my mph back up to 116. I don't want to talk "nonsense" but would you think an 11.65 is reality???? By the way, weather conditions "should" be similar to March this coming weekend, maybe cooler with this "cold front" coming through.
[Modified by lotahp, 9:15 PM 11/19/2003]
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (lotahp)
Norm,
I'm pretty sure that you'll see at least 11.70's if not 11.60's... The single plane intake will make some difference :yesnod: :yesnod:
I'm pretty sure that you'll see at least 11.70's if not 11.60's... The single plane intake will make some difference :yesnod: :yesnod:
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (Jay 383)
My old stang did something like a 10.80@116 mph. Sure it's quick, but for a 10.80 that's a weak mph.
Look at ND records, pick a car that runs your MPH (120) I bet it has an ET of 9s
now you look at a 9 sec car & say it should be running 130+ but its a matter of HP vs chassis set up. All NHRA (Stock & Super Stock) cars will look like the MPH is low because they hook hard & run quick ET for the amount of HP they have.
Now look at some kid with a Honda with a 200 shot of NOS he will run 13s but also 115 mph.. a lot of MPH (he has HP but low traction)
Good chassis will run quick ET... High HP will run high MPH..if you take a high MPH car, that has a slow ET.. set up the chassis, & the ET will drop like a stone!
I'd rather run 12.2 @ 110 than 12.90 @ 117 why..... because I'd win !! :D
Maybe someone with a little more knowledge than me can jump in..
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (Face)
Face, you are the reason behind my question. :thumbs: When I had seen your times at 11.62 @ 114mph It got me wondering what I can do. I just figured (after talking to a couple of "race guys" confirmed my thoughts correct) that you have your combo dialed in just right. Your gear, tire size, shift point, weight, and other things, that you are getting the most or just about the most out of your combination. It's all in sync. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying you can't go any faster!!! You C5 guys are unbelievable, Running hi 10's and still getting 20 mpg naturally asperated :thumbs:
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (lotahp)
I've run 11.5s at 116 but my ET amd MPH never seem to match up ;)
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (Red96Coupe)
JD I disagree.... example look at my car, its only run 110 my best ET was 12.28 now is that great ET but low MPH...NO ! The car has a stock motor, & its automatic, but it was HOOKING GREAT..
Look at ND records, pick a car that runs your MPH (120) I bet it has an ET of 9s
now you look at a 9 sec car & say it should be running 130+ but its a matter of HP vs chassis set up. All NHRA (Stock & Super Stock) cars will look like the MPH is low because they hook hard & run quick ET for the amount of HP they have.
Now look at some kid with a Honda with a 200 shot of NOS he will run 13s but also 115 mph.. a lot of MPH (he has HP but low traction)
Good chassis will run quick ET... High HP will run high MPH..if you take a high MPH car, that has a slow ET.. set up the chassis, & the ET will drop like a stone!
I'd rather run 12.2 @ 110 than 12.90 @ 117 why..... because I'd win !!
Look at ND records, pick a car that runs your MPH (120) I bet it has an ET of 9s
now you look at a 9 sec car & say it should be running 130+ but its a matter of HP vs chassis set up. All NHRA (Stock & Super Stock) cars will look like the MPH is low because they hook hard & run quick ET for the amount of HP they have.
Now look at some kid with a Honda with a 200 shot of NOS he will run 13s but also 115 mph.. a lot of MPH (he has HP but low traction)
Good chassis will run quick ET... High HP will run high MPH..if you take a high MPH car, that has a slow ET.. set up the chassis, & the ET will drop like a stone!
I'd rather run 12.2 @ 110 than 12.90 @ 117 why..... because I'd win !!
Years ago, racers who REALLY searched for their ultimate ET used a simple method of judging how well they had 'applied' their HP to the track.
It was called the "HOOK FACTOR", and it was really quite simple.
You just multiply your ET by your MPH.
As I recall (I'm going back 20+ years, so, bear with me...!), the closer you got to a 'mythical' number of 1300-1320, the better your 'hook-factor' was.
If you are 'above' the 1320-range, you can run a quicker ET (at the same MPH) with chassis-tuning, converter, or gearing; if you 'factored' below 1300, you had too-much gear already (case-in-point; I once worked with a guy who's '73 T/A had a 455 SD & 4.56 gears. It was 'wound-tight' WELL before the stripe, running 12.60s @ 'only' 97 MPH: his 'factor was in the low-12-hundreds. After switching to 3.90-gears, he ran 12.30s @ 108 MPH, a factor of 1330...)
In the scenario John mentioned above, a car running 12.2 @ 110 'factors' at '1342', where-as the 12.7/117 car 'factors' at '1485+'.
*** A word of caution: ***
The lower the 'hook-factor', the harder the car MUST leave, and the greater traction woes will exist: the 12.2-car has a VERY good 60', but runs out of steam, while the 12.7-car 'walks' off the line, making up time further down-track.....
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (Glensgages)
NEW BEST 11.67@114 :D But I still have some rpm left at the top end. Either a shorter tire (26.5) or a taller gear (4.30). Tires are less $$$ but the gear will probably make a bigger difference.
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Re: ???? @ 116 mph (lotahp)
NEW BEST 11.67@114 :D But I still have some rpm left at the top end. Either a shorter tire (26.5) or a taller gear (4.30). Tires are less $$$ but the gear will probably make a bigger difference.
