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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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what is the deal on those. anyone using them for any serious aplications. are they a gimmick or a for real option?
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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It has been 10-15 years since I've dealt with any of these. If I remember correctly ; the carb works very much like the secondary side of a Q-jet.
I believe there is a vacumn air valve on top and a mechanical on the bottom. I can't remember how we changed the mixture. Did it have jets or slide needles?
This design prevents over carbing so to speak ; only lets the engine have what the vacumn single sends the venturie.
From what I remember , they worked fine on a tunnel ram drag race engine a friend of mine had..
I do not know why they did not become more popular ; other than I think they cost more than a Holley in the beginning.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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has been a long time
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Only short description 'bout Predator Carbs in most carb books. But advantage is simplicity and almost no tuning. Disadvantage - $500 each. They do sell a street model that has idle circuit. And tunig is mostly changing cams and/or cam curves.
Good luck. cardo0
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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had one on a 4X4 once, not the best thing for street driving (seen worse, seen better). one real good backfire will rip the rubber backfire flappers (of couse they fall into motor when this happens) so that could be better.
they do great at WOT though, would be good for a drag car/ mud bogger, anything where your foots on the floorboard most of the time.
all in all, I'd rather have a Holley
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ol,RJ
had one on a 4X4 once, not the best thing for street driving (seen worse, seen better). one real good backfire will rip the rubber backfire flappers (of couse they fall into motor when this happens) so that could be better.
they do great at WOT though, would be good for a drag car/ mud bogger, anything where your foots on the floorboard most of the time.
all in all, I'd rather have a Holley
did your have the street kit installed ?????
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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Had a pair on a 4x4 ran good change the came out for different applications on it and it only took a few minutes odd looking but simple and strong.
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Originally Posted by comp
did your have the street kit installed ?????

yes it was one of the later versions with street kit.
it wasn't bad, probably could have used more adjusting by someone who knew what they were doing. as I recall the tip-in was ok, every once and while it would buck after decellerating/rolling back into the throttle (only did it rarely).
for off roading they were the thing to have. I don't think I'd put one on a vette though, plenty of cheaper holleys that would work just as good (and come closer to fitting under the hood, I think that predator was about 8" tall).
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Is a Predator carb, similiar
to a Keihin CV ?
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Originally Posted by ol,RJ
yes it was one of the later versions with street kit.
it wasn't bad, probably could have used more adjusting by someone who knew what they were doing. as I recall the tip-in was ok, every once and while it would buck after decellerating/rolling back into the throttle (only did it rarely).
for off roading they were the thing to have. I don't think I'd put one on a vette though, plenty of cheaper holleys that would work just as good (and come closer to fitting under the hood, I think that predator was about 8" tall).
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was it a auto ??? stock convertor ???
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yep, it was a auto with stock converter.

actually it was on a jeep pickup, slightly mod'd 360ci motor (headers, intake) with 31" tires.
can't recall what year it was (this was back in 1989-90) might have been a 79 jeep.
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When they first came out a friend who was very much into anything "gimmicky" bought one.He ran it on a 350 in a 1970 Camaro,and it gave impressive launches (no bog) but seemed to lay down after the eighth mile.We later confirmed this at the track,switching from a Predator to a Holley picked up two tenths on a tunnel rammed 350 in a 23 altered.The first guy bought the cams and kit to make all the changes in tuning,but they never seemed to live up to their potential.
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