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Old May 30, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Has anyone done a 427 small block? I hear the HP and torque are close to a big block.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 71white
Has anyone done a 427 small block? I hear the HP and torque are close to a big block.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1427082
Place this question in C4 performance Tech section, there are a few 427 out there.

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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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We can build you one....just how wild do you want it?
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A cubic inch is a cubic inch. To be in the real same league as big block requires heads like Brodix -12 with 272 cc intakes and then you can approach the 400 CFM levels just like the big block boys.

I drive a nice 434 SBC

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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I think the BBC boys are getting around 400cfm these days... AFRs' new 195 cc heads flow 280cfm/Street version or the 300cfm/Comp version @.600". Either of these would work very well with a 4" stroke SBC motor.


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Originally Posted by Curveit
I think the BBC boys are getting around 400cfm these days... AFRs' new 195 cc heads flow 280cfm/Street version or the 300cfm/Comp version @.600". Either of these would work very well with a 4" stroke SBC motor.


Not on streetable sub 440 ci big blocks. Look up the flow rates for some of the edelbrock bbc heads. With the 300 or so cc intake port volume.

To the poster. I use Dart 227 cc heads with lower 300+ cfm. They are about the minimum you would want to use
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Originally Posted by gkull
Not on streetable sub 440 ci big blocks. Look up the flow rates for some of the edelbrock bbc heads. With the 300 or so cc intake port volume.

To the poster. I use Dart 227 cc heads with lower 300+ cfm. They are about the minimum you would want to use
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Thanks,
I was looking at 215 heads, seems way too small. You saved me a lot of money!
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What compression ration are you running?
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My compression is 11.8 You only have a limited number of choices with 434 ci small block racing pistons made for up to .800 lift with altered degree heads with bigger diameter valves like 2.200/1.625.

Instead of typing it all again. Go to my forum home page.
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In case you did not know to click on the persons name in near the Avitar.

http://www.corvetteforum.net/c3/gkull/
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I think Chevy built a small block 427. I think they call it an LS7!
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But an LS7 won't easily fit in my '61 w/o a lot of work,a nd it won't look like a 283....

I am finishing up a 427 on a Dart little M block with Dart Pro1 Alum CNC heads. Bore is 4.190", stroke is 3.85".

Engine analyzer shows this putting out about 520 T/HP with a fairly mild solid roller of .520/.550" lift and 224/232 duration at .050". should be nicely streetable.

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now That should be pretty cool. Please be sure to post us some pics of it in your car
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Originally Posted by 71white
Has anyone done a 427 small block? I hear the HP and torque are close to a big block.
Last weekend at the track my 434 ci small block had enough TQ to overpower 12X27 road racing slicks nearly anywhere on the track. I have to bog the motor in 3rd and 4th gear to keep from spinning to hard out of the turns. So i'm not sure how you could get more power to really work in a street machine.

In this video I shift from 4-5 at @ 135mph and top out in the 150's before slowing down just past the flag stand.


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www.worldcastings.com

They sell turnkey smallblocks. Their detuned 427 comes with 550hp while their racing 427 smallblock puts out 675hp. They even sell a 600hp 454 smallblock with a two year warranty.

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Originally Posted by gkull
Last weekend at the track my 434 ci small block had enough TQ to overpower 12X27 road racing slicks nearly anywhere on the track. I have to bog the motor in 3rd and 4th gear to keep from spinning to hard out of the turns. So i'm not sure how you could get more power to really work in a street machine.

In this video I shift from 4-5 at @ 135mph and top out in the 150's before slowing down just past the flag stand.


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Nice!

Be sure to post that up in the road racing section
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Originally Posted by NORTY
I think Chevy built a small block 427. I think they call it an LS7!
Right....that's why I chose it for my user name. Have one under the hood of my Vette.
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Originally Posted by 71white
Has anyone done a 427 small block? I hear the HP and torque are close to a big block.
Sounds like the answer is no. They've all been professionally built and they'd rather keep it a secret and charge you big bucks.

There must be a standard recipe to do this.

I have a Rodeck 350+ block i would like to install a max stroke crank.

What i understand of it is.

you need a small base circle cam and/or raised cam location.

Wider pan rails and/or grinding on the pan rails for clearance. How much can you grind before you ruin the block???

Do you have to grind on the rods???

Someone want to fess up?
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