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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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I have a 85 Corvette (autocross only) with a 96 carbureted small block in it. The engine has a one piece rear seal. It has a balanced flywheel and a neutral balanced dampener. I am running a 4 speed muncie transmission. None of these parts actually came together, but the engine runs well with no apparent vibrations

several questions:
1. I this an externally balanced engine?
2. If so, are the flywheel and dampner both balanced?
3. If I change over to a ZF transmission, do I have to change the flywheel, If so, is the ZF flywheel externally balanced?

Your help is appreciated.

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Is this an LT1/4 engine?

If so, then the stock flywheel is not neutral it's also a dual mass unit.

You might be better swapping in a camaro/firebird 6sp
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This is not an LT1 engine. Is the dampener always externally balanced when the flywheel is externally balanced?
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You can do it w/o a dual mass, but you'll have a lot a great noise.

One for an L98 should work.

Not sure on the balance though.
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Originally Posted by 1963GrayGray
This is not an LT1 engine. Is the dampener always externally balanced when the flywheel is externally balanced?
No, this is not always the case. It is with the 454's and small block 400's of yester-year, but with the later model 1 piece rear main seal small blocks the dampener is nuetral balanced and the flywheel is counterweighted. This is because the 1 piece rear seal crankshafts can no longer accomodate the additional small counterweight that was part of the flywheel flange of the older 2-piece style cranks.

It's going to be hard to tell what you have unless you know it's all factory stuff, in which case your flywheel is counter-balanced since you have a 1-piece rear seal crank. If you take your old and new flywheel to an engine shop that does balancing they can likely "match" them.
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Originally Posted by danno85
the later model 1 piece rear main seal small blocks the dampener is nuetral balanced and the flywheel is counterweighted. This is because the 1 piece rear seal crankshafts can no longer accomodate the additional small counterweight that was part of the flywheel flange of the older 2-piece style cranks..

People get confused , believing the counterweight on the 2 pce crank is "external" to the engine therefore it has external balance.
The factory considers the crank assembly internal to the engine so in your case the weight on the flywheel is a external balance.
As noted all SBC are neutral at front EXCEPT 400.
From the factory
2 pce engines are neutral rear balance
1 pce engines are external rear balance
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