Front Blower Drive - getting silly ?
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Front Blower Drive - getting silly ?
After looking at Monty's "crowded" (but beautiful) engine compartment with the twin turbos and wondering if I could find something more interesting than the "run of the mill" single block EFI setup ... was wondering last night about plumbing a front mount 6-71 blower to a custom FI manifold. Maybe use one of the Stealth-Ram bases with a custom plenum and twin throttle bodies. With the motor set-back I could probably stick one in. Anyone seen one recently or know if they even still exist? I've never seen one close enough to know how they mount to the motor (or do they mount to the chassis).
Or should I just put on the funny jacket with the extra long arms and go back to sleep :)
-Greg
Or should I just put on the funny jacket with the extra long arms and go back to sleep :)
-Greg
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (GregP)
Or should I just put on the funny jacket with the extra long arms and go back to sleep :)
-Greg
-Greg
Actually, I think I know what you are talking about. Mounting the 6/8/14-71 blower in front of the engine, and have some tubes run up and into the intake?
There was an older/vintage dragster that had this set up. I want say it had something to do with moon/mooneye's stuff. It, or a copy is sitting in a PAW shop in the next town over from me.
I am looking for pics right now...
[Modified by bill mcdonald, 3:39 PM 5/1/2002]
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (bill mcdonald)
found more, these are the close ups.
heres the page http://public.fotki.com/wackydave/ca...eyes_dragster/
heres the page http://public.fotki.com/wackydave/ca...eyes_dragster/
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (bill mcdonald)
Yep, that's the setup I remember. Wonder if any of those drive adapter housings still exist.
Thanks for the pictures.
-Greg
[Modified by GregP, 8:46 AM 5/2/2002]
Thanks for the pictures.
-Greg
[Modified by GregP, 8:46 AM 5/2/2002]
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (GregP)
Wow, that's pretty cool looking. I have never seen that before.
Seems like a centrifugal or Whipple supercharger would be easier to package though. It looks like you'd have to set the engine back a couple of feet to get that front mount roots SC to fit?
Seems like a centrifugal or Whipple supercharger would be easier to package though. It looks like you'd have to set the engine back a couple of feet to get that front mount roots SC to fit?
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (Monty)
The one in the photo looks to me like a 14-71? A 6-71 isnt that long, shorter than a SBC block. A 4-71 at modest boost would be even shorter. And I do probably have close to 2 feet to work with, the motor is back about 10" behind the cross member, and the radiator has been moved forward and down.
Possible ? Don't know. May have to ask my brother to hit the Pomona swap meet a couple of times this summer and see if anything shows up.
-Greg
Possible ? Don't know. May have to ask my brother to hit the Pomona swap meet a couple of times this summer and see if anything shows up.
-Greg
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (GregP)
Wow, they should have gone really wild and stuck another roots on the intake with a huge intercooler inbetween the two. :crazy:
Hmm, or was it done this way to prevent detonation/reversion from blowing up the blower?
Tony
[Modified by HunterRose, 1:21 PM 5/2/2002]
Hmm, or was it done this way to prevent detonation/reversion from blowing up the blower?
Tony
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (HunterRose)
Blower Bentleys used to do that stock :eek:
That's the blower with sidedraft carburetors sticking out the front.
That's the blower with sidedraft carburetors sticking out the front.
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (BrianCunningham)
Yep, the blower Bentlies were probably the first to do that. Any relation to the Cunningham who ran at Lemans? Went to his musieum in So Cal years ago, lots of nice cars. Can't remember the curator's name, but he was a welath of info and lots of fun to talk with.
-Greg
-Greg
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (GregP)
No relation, but if they want to send me an inheritance check, by all means! :D
BTW Peter Cunningham in running the Speed WC
and the family is coming out with a new street car.
Back to the subject, MG made a little "Poor Man's" version of the car.
Same setup, sticking out the front radiator grill.
And Mercedes did a version with a clutch, so it could be turned on when good gasoline, kinda rare back then was available.
BTW Peter Cunningham in running the Speed WC
and the family is coming out with a new street car.
Back to the subject, MG made a little "Poor Man's" version of the car.
Same setup, sticking out the front radiator grill.
And Mercedes did a version with a clutch, so it could be turned on when good gasoline, kinda rare back then was available.
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (GregP)
Greg,wouldn't a VORTEC style blower be easier to mount and to plumb with just as good results?.....not an expert talking,just an enthusiastic amateur...john :cheers: :chevy
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (jdunne)
defnitely easier to install, less weight as well.
Roots blower have a nice linear output, as well as a lower initial cost.
If I went for a custom blower setup, I'd go with a latham screw type blower.
Far more efficient compressor.
but a Roots definitely has a :cool: factor about it :D
Roots blower have a nice linear output, as well as a lower initial cost.
If I went for a custom blower setup, I'd go with a latham screw type blower.
Far more efficient compressor.
but a Roots definitely has a :cool: factor about it :D
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (BrianCunningham)
Sorry, reply was intened to jdunne asking about the centrifugal blowers. Forgot that the reply button on each post doesn't tag "who's" reply your replying to.
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Re: Front Blower Drive - getting silly ? (HunterRose)
Hmm, or was it done this way to prevent detonation/reversion from blowing up the blower?