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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Default LPE 219 cam specs please?

I would like to do some H-Roller DD2000 comparisions for a 420 ci with race flowed AFR195 cc Ported superram 58mm. 1 3/4 full length :cheers:
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 07:34 PM
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Default Re: LPE 219 cam specs please? (gkull)

scorps' got em

this link http://personal.tmlp.com/scorp/vette...lter_74219.cam
is in this thread http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=391629
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George, nice lookin' motor ya got goin there :jester

Did the DD file come thru?
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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That will work just fine in a 420. new92racer(formerly Bill C's car) ran 11.28@117 in crap air and a SOFT launch with His...then ran a 10.93@124 with better-cooler air.

it's a hellova motor....but the 700R and D44 are at risk if it's to be frequently hooked. TORQUE monster! :cheers:
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Raistlin - Those numbers of 31, 67 67,31 just can't be real. Your calling it for having 62 degrees of overlap and 108 lsa


I think that LPE doesn't want you to know what it is so they can charge you $300 something for it.
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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Raistlin - Those numbers of 31, 67 67,31 just can't be real. Your calling it for having 62 degrees of overlap and 108 lsa


I think that LPE doesn't want you to know what it is so they can charge you $300 something for it.
you'll have to ask scorp, i had just remembered that previous post and searched it out. here's a quote from scorp from that thread "The LSA is 112. That file "should" have everything you need already in it. Yes, .560 is the lift with 1.6 rockers. the cam is...
219/219 duration
.525/.525 lift w/1.5
.560/.560 lift w/1.6
112 lsa"

don't know if that helps and i wouldn't be suprised if they kept it secret.
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That is just the desktop dyno 2000 file. Those figures were created when I entered the cam info.
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Default Re: LPE 219 cam specs please? (Raistlin)

From 219/219 112 lsa I could juggle the numbers in DD2000 and come out really close. Scorp all you have to do is take a simular low duration cam and change the figures util the lsa is right and then you would be within an degree or 2 plus or minus from actual.

I just thought that someone would know. It's overlap is probably less than 2-3 degrees. some really mild cams with 114 lsa actually have negitive overlap numbers
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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JD 90 383, I noticed you have a 383 w/ LPE Superram EFI. How do you like it? Do you know it's output numbers? Does it have plenty of low-end torque or does it really perform in the upper RPM? When I rebuilt my 350, I am going to go the 383 route and was thinking about the SuperRam. Do you know if LPE sells a complete kit for non-computerized vehicles?
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Scorp508 - I played with a bunch of figures with DD2000 and the LPE 219 cam would have these figures if indeed it has 112 lc

BTDC -1 ABDC 40
BBDC 43 ATDC -4 For an overlap of -5

These figures give realistic dyno graphs when compared to the HotLT4 and the ZZ409 cam profiles
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Thanks, I'll go look at that and modify the file I guess. It does have a 112 LSA on it.
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Answering your question....I LOVE the 383 and the 219 combo. It drives around town with very good manners, and pulls flat from when you mash the gas 'til 58-6000 RPM effortlessly. It's making 440 at the crank(117 best in the 1/4 so far with a spinning 11.84). I've had some tuning issues with the stock ECM, so in the works is a sequential DFI Gen VII. It should be good to mid-low 11's. That's what I am shooting for.

Not too sure what LPE sells for non-computerized vehicles. Sorry I can't help much more there. :cheers:
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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LPE lists a stand alone SUperRam system @ $3,344.95
Manifold, 58TB, Runners, Plenum, ECU, Wiring harness, fuel pump, injectors, fuel rail, sensors, fittings, gaskets $ instructions.

:cheers:
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Thanks VetteRacer282, I did see the system on LPE website but wasn't sure if it was a retrofit for a computer-controlled car or a true stand-alone. It is kinda pricey, more EFI systems are in the $1500 price range, is this system worth double for a daily driver? I am going to have a mild 383 geared toward low-end torque (as opposed to high-end power).
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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This website: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/7610/dyno.htm , references the LPE 219 cam as the following:

Lingenfelter hydraulic roller cam: 219/219 @ .050, .525/.525 lift. 112deg lobe sep,...
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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69: Depends... A carb style FI system is what I am guessing your refering to for price. I think those flow rather well. If its stock TPI you mean.. then yeah its worth the extra $. Someday (hopefully the guy hasnt sold the intake and I will get it...) somewhat I hope, I will have stock TPI dyno numbers on my 383, and then SuperRam #'s. Then 219 #'s and then AFR head #'s... but anyways... On a 383 the SR/219 combo is claimed to be like 440hp/480tq according to LPE, which is a source I for some reason beleive their claims....

As a side note... I am going to be spending $1100 or so on computer/harnss alone... and yes itll be my daily driver.. But then I like spending money :p:

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I was just sent LPE 219 real specs. My guess wasn't that far off. I'll run these figures on DD2000 and it will be a touch milder than my guess.

219/219 @ 0.050
0.525/0.525 w/1.5
center line is 112 on a 108

Intake @.050
1.5 BTDC
37.5 ABDC

Exhaust @.050

45.5 BBDC
-6.5 ATDC

Not everybody on here know that the cam has 4* advance made into it and that makes a lot of different in the low TQ



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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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JD, I'm thinking about doing something very similar to what you have. Wonder if you can expand a little on the tuning issues that you have.

Thanks
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GKull, i just plugged that 219 information into DD2K and it comes very close to almost matching my dyno curve. :cheers:


Ok now here is a question. Is the 4* advance already in those #s you gave me, or do I have to plug the 4* into DD2K also. If I plug -4* in instead of 0* it shows real good gains under the curve and even a little bit in peak #.

Hmmmm.... :confused: :)


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Scorp - The .050 numbers are how it is installed with the 4 degrees ground in. I think it was Beach Bum who installed it straight up (retarded the cam 4*) to gain some top end.
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