2014 LS7 engine option
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Yes, there's a gap that the LS7 Camaro fits nicely. And while the Z28 name seems conspicuously unused, SS 427 might have more marketability. It's probably the last 427, so they should make the most of it. Leave Z28 for something special in the next generation.
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Wow never thought of that. That would market great. SS 427 fender tag. I'd want one but wouldn't buy one lol
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I think a few old-guard GM Powertrain engineers might like to see a new LT5, to remove some of the sting of "needing" help from Lotus back in the day. The rest of us would probably rather see that code retired. The LT5 is, after all, quite unique, no matter who gets the credit.
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My guess is the LS7 will be made in very, very limited numbers and the buyer would have to know a high level person in GM to order one. I doubt you'll see one on the show room floor.
Perhaps as "off-road" only and not for street use. Kind of like the Camaro's in White for drag racing.
If you can get one, that would be an instant collector's item.
Perhaps as "off-road" only and not for street use. Kind of like the Camaro's in White for drag racing.
If you can get one, that would be an instant collector's item.
Melting Slicks
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The LS 7 in the Vette was pushing 3200 LBS and would be pushing 500? lbs more..
My Z seemed so sensitive to weight that I am not sure that motor would keep the legend status that it earned pushing a Camaro body
My Z seemed so sensitive to weight that I am not sure that motor would keep the legend status that it earned pushing a Camaro body
Burning Brakes
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1967 Corvette had 300 HP(base) with a curb weight of 3155#.
1967 Camero had a 375 HP L78(exact same L78 that was rated at 425HP when in the 1965 Corvette) optional engine, with a curb weight of 3375#.
The camero was the faster of the two.
Both the Corvette and the Camero survived to see 1968.
1967 Camero had a 375 HP L78(exact same L78 that was rated at 425HP when in the 1965 Corvette) optional engine, with a curb weight of 3375#.
The camero was the faster of the two.
Both the Corvette and the Camero survived to see 1968.
The base Camaro was a I6 and the base V8 was rated at 290hp, the most powerful V8 in a 67 Camaro was rated 400hp..
So I think it is valid to question why it appears there may be only a base level Corvette but more than one performance optioned Camaros with more power in that first year.
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Drifting
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My guess is the LS7 will be made in very, very limited numbers and the buyer would have to know a high level person in GM to order one. I doubt you'll see one on the show room floor.
Perhaps as "off-road" only and not for street use. Kind of like the Camaro's in White for drag racing.
If you can get one, that would be an instant collector's item.
Perhaps as "off-road" only and not for street use. Kind of like the Camaro's in White for drag racing.
If you can get one, that would be an instant collector's item.
The copo drag camaro is limited because gm said they were going to be, but then turned around and made another years worth. Also, they arn't a "car", they are technically a part, with a part number I believe. I know none of them have VIN numbers.
Drifting
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However, I wonder if gm will stick a "428" badge on it this time around(sorry, just stirring the pot)...
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It had an aluminum head option but the HP stayed the same. You could get the M22 rock crusher transmission with it and 4:88 dealer installed gears.
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There was the limited production 67 Z28 with dual four barrel carb option that had 400hp. Z28s in 67 were not listed in GM sales brochures. And I believe it was a souped up high reving 302 small block so it could compete in the Trans AM series racing.
Either way, my point was it is hard to believe GM will produce only a base Corvette with 450 to 470hp when they have a couple of over 500hp Camaros selling at the same time.
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I have been driving vettes since I was 17 and by far the lions share of vette owners I have known over the years didn't have a clue or most could care less how many HP their car had.
Unless you are buying the car for the track what practical difference would 450 HP or 500 HP make to the average vette owner that only drives it on the street.
Unless you are buying the car for the track what practical difference would 450 HP or 500 HP make to the average vette owner that only drives it on the street.
If this was true then why would people like me mod the car to make it faster when all we do is drive it on the street? Cuz it makes a difference thats why.
Racer
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Gen4 camaro SS got the original Lt4 just before the Ls switch. Chevy runs deep between the engineers at least.
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I actually believe the base Corvette will start a couple thousand less than the $54k the Camaro ZL1 starts at. If they did do a 427 for the Camaro, they would probably de-tune it about 40hp or more like they did in the ZL1, so say 460 hp for about $46k. As long as the base Corvette had say 470hp, that would work marketing wise.
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Not "production car" wise. 97 SS's were lt1's. 97 slp prepared SS and WS6 were lt4's. From what I understand, they are considerably rare, along the lines of 200 or so between firebird/camaro.
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I actually believe the base Corvette will start a couple thousand less than the $54k the Camaro ZL1 starts at. If they did do a 427 for the Camaro, they would probably de-tune it about 40hp or more like they did in the ZL1, so say 460 hp for about $46k. As long as the base Corvette had say 470hp, that would work marketing wise.
They're not going to detune the LS7. Why would they?
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Racer
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Gen 4 & gen 5
So does this mean that the Gen 4 engines will still continue to be in production along side the Gen 5 small block. Does anyone know what applications the Gen 5 will be used in besides the Corvette or is it intended to be exclusive to the Corvette for a while?
