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Old 08-08-2018, 12:38 PM
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^^^ @vvv90, Ahh, another person with first-hand experience with the LT1.


Koko... did you really just say that? "IF installed correctly, it SHOULD never fail, IF NEW!"

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Originally Posted by K-Spaz View Post
^^^ @vvv90, Ahh, another person with first-hand experience with the LT1.


Koko... did you really just say that? "IF installed correctly, it SHOULD never fail, IF NEW!"

Yep, my bad......I was thinking of a different seal
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Originally Posted by 96 Vette CE View Post
So when my Opti-Spark chits the bed I have to junk my car?



I didn't say that AT ALL. However, you may find if increasingly difficult to get repair parts for the Opti. From what I read in the past, the key to a properly functioning Opti was the optical sensor, a MITSUBISHI MANUFACTURED optical sensor. These sensors were OE for the Opti, but Mitsu quit making them, a number of years ago. So, if your Opti quits, and you look for a rebuilt unit, your chances of finding one with that sensor are getting slimmer by the day.

There was a Corvette oriented outfit whose name I forget at the moment, that manufactured what was supposed to be a superior, replacement Opti-Spark unit. It was called the 'Dyna-Spark', but the original outfit ran into financial issues, and then somebody else bought the parts inventory and manufacturing/sales rights. But I think that they, too, crashed and burned, because the market for them wasn't as big as they thought.
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Maybe because they are 22-25 years old. I never thought they were ugly but u had to get a color and wheels u like I nearly bought one 5 years ago when I found a beat up good running C5 for a similar price
On 17" wheels



On 16" wheels....
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Originally Posted by Fast81 View Post
Have always liked the 4th gen Camaros and been watching them recently on CList. It seems the LT1 models 93-97 go dirt cheap compared to LT1 C4s in the same condition and half price to their LS1 successors 98-02.
I previously owned a C4 and loved it when I first got it, but wow, the day I sold that LT1 just to get it away from me was wayyy better. If the camaro is more difficult to work on then good luck. I still have nightmares about having to yet again change out the optispark and waterpump while having to dismantle the camberbrace I needed because the chassy was so floppy. The oil leaks and cheap plastic parts disintegrating were a constant problem. I would go with something different.

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Old 08-08-2018, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sawbone View Post


I previously owned a C4 and loved it when I first got it, but wow, the day I sold that LT1 just to get it away from me was wayyy better. If the camaro is more difficult to work on then good luck. I still have nightmares about having to yet again change out the optispark and waterpump while having to dismantle the camberbrace I needed because the chassy was so floppy. The oil leaks and cheap plastic parts disintegrating were a constant problem. I would go with something different.
Sounds like you had a beater
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Originally Posted by 96 Vette CE View Post
Sounds like you had a beater
Or it sounds like I had a typical C4 LT1.
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Originally Posted by 96 Vette CE View Post
Installed correctly, that seal should never fail if fairly new
IIRC It has nothing to do with installation, but rather a design flaw. The harmonics generated by the cam drive causes the ball bearings to fail and why all the LT1 guys were going with electric pumps instead. I chose to replace it with an OEM one. Sold the car 2000 miles later.
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Originally Posted by vvv90 View Post
No, it's much harder than you can imagine unless you get a proven head/cam combo with a proven flash but even then there's climate and altitude differences. Just forget the idea and go with an aftermarket injection system. It will pay for itself in both time, money and frustration.
:iagee: My brother spent way too many thousands on multiple dyno tunes trying to get his modified LT1 tuned properly and it still under performed and had drivability issues. Stay away from that iron block turd and move up to the LS like the rest of the world has.
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It was called the 'Dyna-Spark',
Man this thread is really taking me back. Spiking my blood pressure.

I remember debating about getting a Dynaspark. If I remember they were super expensive.
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FWIW my mechanic and good friend advised against me getting a C4, based mostly on the LT1, but also because of parts availability with other key components, like the HVAC control unit.
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Originally Posted by ptindall View Post
:iagee: My brother spent way too many thousands on multiple dyno tunes trying to get his modified LT1 tuned properly and it still under performed and had drivability issues. Stay away from that iron block turd and move up to the LS like the rest of the world has.
It's amazing that the cheaper route was to get a $2,000 F.A.S.T. injection system.
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Originally Posted by ptindall View Post
Because the only reason to buy one is if you are too broke to buy an LS1 car, and those are cheap, making the LT1 car pretty worthless.


Not that they are bad cars, but the LS1 instantly relegated the LT1 to "Why bother?" status.
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Not that they are bad cars, but the LS1 instantly relegated the LT1 to "Why bother?" status.
^100%. And especially since both of them have depreciated and hit their price bottom, the premium is marginal.
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Even mechanics with all exotic equipment hate those cars. Know a mechanic in San Diego that will not work on that generation Camaro/Trans Am. Many Vette tuners or mechanics will not work on C4s. There is one in SD that knows how to tune the LT4/OBD-2 but his words "It takes too ******* long, I will not do it"
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Originally Posted by danziger View Post


Not that they are bad cars, but the LS1 instantly relegated the LT1 to "Why bother?" status.


You mean to say technology advanced? Say it isn't so
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette View Post
Good point! Was in the market for a 97-02 SS but once I Saw half the motor under the dash went ................. Those were cheaper than the Camaros!
A nice mustang GT costs pennies, too.


Originally Posted by jim2527 View Post
A lot of them out there and a hassle to work on. I'll take a Gen 3 over a Gen 4.....



Even in my 3 "B Bodies" the LT1 is a PITA to work on! Good power, for it's time, however.
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Originally Posted by vvv90 View Post
Man this thread is really taking me back. Spiking my blood pressure.

I remember debating about getting a Dynaspark. If I remember they were super expensive.
As were any of the alternative methods of tuning/fueling an LT1. When guys are seriously thankful they swapped to a quadrajet, you know all you need to know.
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