Question time.
1. Does the lower windshield trim match the rest on of the trim around the windshield...is it gloss ? is it textured or is it smooth like the rest ?
2. Does the console paint look to be the same as the painted of the fiberglass portion of the main dash in color and shine ?
3. Does the radio speaker bezel and speaker grill match each other in color and shine ?
4. Does the metal strips that runs down the rear of the b-pillar (in the door jamb-rear)match that of the inner windshield trim in color and shine ?
5. Does the vent console panels match the fiber glass portion of the dash in color and shine ?
6. are any of the fastener screws that are holding the above chrome or bright or are they painted to match there components they are holding in place ?
7. Would you say that all the colors and textures in your interior are the same color of black red what ever, only varying in gloss or do they vary in shades to ?.

By color and shine I mean is it flat, semi flat, semi gloss, and or gloss and high gloss

 

Ehhhh?...Ronnie, is this what the test would look like if 67 interior judges had to be certified by examination? :D :D

 

Ron,

If you don't get the answers later, I will try to find my TG&JM and look them up for you.

Tom

 

Yes and I'm sure that most owners need to be certified also :D

 

That would be great Tom. GrassyA $$ :D


[Modified by Ron D, 9:00 AM 12/14/2001]

 

Ron -

Some trim parts were painted at (many) different suppliers, some at St. Louis, some at A.O. Smith - I doubt if many of them matched in either color or gloss; whatever you do will be at least as good as the original cars, which were all over the place. All screw heads were chrome - none were painted to match the trim.

 

Ron,

Do thoose answers work for you or do you want me to look for you?

Area btw the dashes is semi I believe, speaker and trim gloss, consol is gloss but textured.

Tom

 

Thanks all for the info. I am waiting for a few other emails to come in from last nights late night brain storming.
As best as I can tell there will be 4 differant paints going into the 67's red interior as so far in varying degrees of gloss.

Here is a shot of todays activities. Did all the black out under the hood and wheel wells. Turned out great :)



[Modified by Ron D, 8:32 PM 12/14/2001]

 

Holy whiplash! I was somewhat distracted when I first viewed the picture RonD attached and I thought for a second, mainly because of the yellowish masking tape, Patrick Tighe posted a picture of his 67, finally frame off and freshly blacked out. Then I noticed the red windshield posts. Oh well.

Looks like it's coming along fine, Ron. I noticed the wind was out of the west on Wednesday so I wondered if you were ready to black out, so to speak.

 

Patrick, you mean your birdcage doesn't have that awful green zinc chromate primer?

Cold galv primer is a flat greenish-gray, and I think that must have been added by a previous 'restorer'. I don't know that cold galv was even around when these cars were built; I first saw it in industrial applications in the late seventies. Proper application of zinc enriched primer requires the metal to be sand blasted to white metal and primed within hours (no setting overnight). Also, just no ordinary paints will stick to it. For petrochemical plants, the premium corrosion protection system was zinc enriched primer, followed by a second coat (can't remember what it was), all topcoated with DuPont Imron epoxy. Each coat was specified as 2-3 mils thickness, depending on which coat it was.

If your car wasn't originally red (body color), I would expect to find green zinc chromate primer, 'red' primer, body color, and blackout all on the bird cage in various degrees of coverage in different areas of the birdcage. Some of the coverage like the zinc chromate primer (dipped components?) and blackout ( on the windshield pillars) was intentional, but the rest of it was overspray that they knew would be covered up by trim items.


[Modified by Chuck Sangerhausen, 9:55 AM 12/15/2001]

 

I agree Chuck. The cages were painted with the primer you mentioned (Its more green than gray) any red that Pat is seeing is most likely primer overspray from the out side. I'll try and find some pictures of the Cage in this one I'm doing. You'll be amazed what I had to do in order to make this car come back to life in regards to bird cage repair. The color (Black out) is a new one on me and this was the first time I used it. The color is called Blitz Black made by John Deer, you know the tractor guys. It is spot on in my eyes. Major public endorsement on this product. Ron's Corvette Plus Restoration Network, Now uses this paint as there Number 1 black out paint in every one of there one world wide locations :D

 

The "birdcage" was welded together, then sprayed with green zinc chromate primer and air-dried in the basement at St. Louis, then conveyed upstairs into the Body Shop where the body was built around it. Same process was used at A.O. Smith-Ionia on their bodies - anything else on birdcage pieces is overspray from the body paint process. The blackout looks great, Ron - the Rev. will love it!


[Modified by JohnZ, 2:06 PM 12/15/2001]

 

Some of it is a yellowish green I would even call "chartreuse". Midjeers may have been a darker olive type green. And just to think: I always thought the Rev was twisting our tail with that "Blitz Black" stuff to get us to go down to our tractor dealer and ask for something that didn't exist!...you always have to watch that guy, but then you couldn't see if he wuz grinnin' when using the PC. :D :D

JohnZ, you have got to take the time and write down ALL these recollections, every tiny, seemingly insignificant thing, and get them published into a book. Just start out with all the detail on how parts and materials were received into the plant, and follow a car right through production, covering all the possible exceptions.

This is priceless information that nobody else has or is sharing. Overnight, it would make you as famous in the Corvette hobby as Noland Adams. Not that you are interested in the money, but look how much Noland is getting for a book...heck, even at that price, he can't keep them in stock. I am deadly serious here. :jester