Correct Paint for NCRS
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Melting Slicks
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Correct Paint for NCRS
Does anyone know if a car is entered for judging, does it have to have the correct paint according to the trim plate ro does the paint just have to be correct for the year of the car..
Thanx
/joe
Thanx
/joe
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I forget the years but if your car had Lacquer paint from new you will need Lacquer paint or you will have a points deducted.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
I forget the years but if your car had Lacquer paint from new you will need Lacquer paint or you will have a points deducted.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
That's true only if the new paint does not appear to look like lacquer. If the judges can't tell the difference, there's no deduct, just like everything else in NCRS flight judging
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
lacquer will not shine no matter how many coats of wax you put on it so if you did a base coat clear coat then a judge should be able to tell the dirffrence.
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Lacquer shines very well. Both my 54 and 69 are lacquer and shine like a new penny when you wax them.
John Millar up your way in New Oxford painted my 69 in lacquer in the early 90's. It shines so well that I've been <gasp> falsely accused of using BC/CC and/or urethane at NCRS events.
Today's lacquer just doesn't have the durability of the "old lacquer". Chuck
John Millar up your way in New Oxford painted my 69 in lacquer in the early 90's. It shines so well that I've been <gasp> falsely accused of using BC/CC and/or urethane at NCRS events.
Today's lacquer just doesn't have the durability of the "old lacquer". Chuck
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If the color is correct to the trim tag, but is BC/CC is that a full deduction or partial deduction? If partial, how big is the deduction? Thanks.
BTW Joec if your interested, there is a local chapter NCRS meet near you on Sept. 26 at Suffolk Community College (Selden Campus). You could probably get a good idea on how they judge paint.
BTW Joec if your interested, there is a local chapter NCRS meet near you on Sept. 26 at Suffolk Community College (Selden Campus). You could probably get a good idea on how they judge paint.
Last edited by RoadVettes; Sep 11, 2004 at 10:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
lacquer will not shine no matter how many coats of wax you put on it so if you did a base coat clear coat then a judge should be able to tell the dirffrence.
I was always under the impression that laquer was the best at being able to get a great shine. Of course you had to do more work to get it to do that, but its just so nice to look at when done correctly.
In any case I will probably get the car repainted next year, but not sure with what yet. I want the original Maroon back on the car. Even though the car will be a driver (not daily) I just wnat everything correct.. I'm not sur though whether to do the engine compartment first or last.. I think first tho... The interior is impecable so I don't have to worry about that..
/joe
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Lacquer paint will produce a very deep shine, but it requires maintenance (polishing). One of the main down sides to lacquer is that it's getting very hard to find. Many manufacturers no longer produce it(DuPont,for example) and if you can get it, expect to pay a high price.
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Originally Posted by Chuck Gongloff
John Millar up your way in New Oxford painted my 69 in lacquer in the early 90's. It shines so well that I've been <gasp> falsely accused of using BC/CC and/or urethane at NCRS events.
Today's lacquer just doesn't have the durability of the "old lacquer". Chuck
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I painted many a Vette in Lacquer years back. Always got a terrific shine by finish polishing with Ebony. Then came BC/CC. Wow! Nice shin and oh so easy! But today's painters have materials to work with that I never dreamed of, and the buffing systems to go with them. Lucky Dogs! 
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The issue isn't whether it's actually lacquer, but whether it "appears" to be lacquer as originally applied (dull door and body jambs, hood and deck gutters, etc. - they weren't buffed out). Many painters can make a single-stage urethane or BC/CC job "appear" to be an original lacquer job by careful attention to these areas, and get no deductions or a partial deduction. Paint carries about 85 points (out of 4500 total for the whole car), and you can lose up to 270 points and still Top Flight.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
The issue isn't whether it's actually lacquer, but whether it "appears" to be lacquer as originally applied (dull door and body jambs, hood and deck gutters, etc. - they weren't buffed out). Many painters can make a single-stage urethane or BC/CC job "appear" to be an original lacquer job by careful attention to these areas, and get no deductions or a partial deduction. Paint carries about 85 points (out of 4500 total for the whole car), and you can lose up to 270 points and still Top Flight.
