LS WON

2012 SRT-8 392 does have a comfortable ride and you can feel the differences between the 2 suspension settings.

Dave68

Honestly, I think Daimler had too much influence here. Mercedes has always had that bank vault feeling, partially because of their excessive heft. My 75 Monte Carlo was certainly a larger car than the Challenger, yet it weighed far less.
Hey, if Ford can make a fast muscle car that weighs less than 4000 lbs, so should Chrysler and GM. In fact, I'd like to see a sub-3300 lb muscle car. Get rid of those 20 inch wheels, use lots more high strength steel and aluminum and shrink the body.

McGirk94LT1

I could not bring myself to ever buy one of dodge/Chrysler cars on principle. They must have had so little engineering investment, yet the car costs so much. 5 speed from Mercedes, basic chassis layout from Mercedes, and far as I know the only production cars that still use an iron block... really?!? Then why the F should I pay 45k for an srt8 challenger/charger/300c? They had a huge opportunity with the new 6.4 to switch to aluminum. Heck they even added heat extractor hoods to the jeep and charger version, guess they figured a different hood allowed them to make more money per care then switch to aluminum block.

The charger and 300c, as sedans, are actually cheaply priced versus its competition... but that's because its only other competition is from Mercedes, bmw, and audi. Even the SHO Taurus is over 40k and isn't as fast as the srt8's, and with the g8 gone, the only competition is foreign. The challenger though is in a field of tons of different performance coupes, and should be competitively priced, however it costs more then the charger somehow. Must stink the challenger rt guys running door to door with a $23k mustang v6. I swear the car sells on looks alone...

VNAMVET

They need to.....I had the opportunity to race a "392" 6 speed last week whom had drag radials. By the top of 1st gear he was history.

I ran an 11.98 @ 121 btw.

LS WON

It wasn't even close? Unless the guy can't drive a manual.
Then again isn't the weight difference at least 900lbs. to 1,000 lbs?

You have a factory 2008 Z-06 just with K & N intake?

VNAMVET

I have the stock air intake installed, no K&N.
No modifications but have replaced tires with Bridgestone
RF which now have 13,000 miles on them.

LS WON

factory stock
3,100 lbs. lighter car wins

NytmereZ

I ran 11.81 @122 4 years ago in a 100% 1999 stock viper ACR, don't know what your point is.
Fact is the Chalenger is a very nice car, have you driven or sat in one?
Yes the the muscle cars are faster, but the challenger is the best looking, and best choice if you want a 4 seater.
Did you see the v-10 prototype?, I wish they would make some more of those

LS WON

What you trade off in the SRT Challenger is power for more comfort and a better riding suspension compared to the Mustang. Challenger is a 5 person car. Mustang is a 4 person car.

NytmereZ

I currently have a Boss, I would say the back seat is more for show, maybe 2 children can fit in the back.
To answer you question, I have a family don't , so I picked the mustang, if I did have a family it would be challenger all the way.
If they ever stated putting the viper v-10 in it as they did in a prototype, holy cow, I would be all over that!

LS WON

Me too. I must say though I have a Fox body 88 5.0 5 spd. and it has proven to be the most durable tough car for the last 23 years 238,000+ miles in factory condition other than the 3.55 gear ratio Ford dealership put in without telling me) It also has more rear passenger space than new Mustang for rear passengers which I don't carry. It also has more space in rear when you put the backseat down for stuff .
It is just the ride is so stiff on these bad roads here and I am really tired of the buckboard/skateboard ride.
Ford does make a great product but in my case I am tired of feeling every pebble in the road. So I will sacrifice some power for a little more comfort which is why I opt for a New SRT-8 Challenger with 6 spd unless they change current 5 spd. auto with that Displacement on Demand feature. Reminds me of that V/8/6/4 Cadillac had in the 80's? that flopped.
Don't get me wrong the current Mustang Premium GT I test drove is a better buy, well made, very fast and lighter as I was considering that car at first.
But this time I want a car with a longer wheelbase and one I won't have to worry about hitting curbs, better on driveways unlike with lower profile cars.

Yikes look at them tires
Ford Mustang Laguna Seca

OE Tire: $2301

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...=57950&tab=All



Dodge Hemi Challenger SRT 8

OE Tire: $1186

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...=59939&tab=All

JerriVette

The full size challenger is an excellent vehicle. It shares quite a bit with the very impressive e class mercedes ....and with american hemi supercharged 570hp is impressive..

LS WON

Exactly might thoughts too.

vvv90

570

LS WON

this engine it can empty the Challenger's big 18.5 gallon fuel tank in about twelve minutes.

or
1.5 gallons at full throttle for a minute

Shurshot

Hmmm....... so for ten minutes you can go 175 plus and still have a little time left in the tank to find a gas station with

Anyone know what a ZR1 burns wide open?

LS WON

I think they are coming out with an R/T model with the 392 engine also but without the suspension dampening system on the SRT Challenger.

wan65

Yea, but it will do 3.5 sec. from 0-60mph

LS WON

So then it will cost more to maintain?
All other upper end performance models are going this route.