1,000 HP Cadillac Sixteen Startup, V16 engine
06-18-2013, 10:22 AM
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I think Cadillac are finally at a point where they could manage a car of this caliber. I think it's time.
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06-21-2013, 10:58 PM
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06-21-2013, 11:08 PM
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The term "oil consumption" means the amount of oil an engine ingests during the combustion/exhaust process varying by age and mileage. Usually this increases with age due to a wear of sealing components.
If that's what you meant, that's a rather negligible factor of use considering the demographic.
Do you mean "oil usage?" (Which also would be negligible considering the demographic.)
Regardless, considering the length of the crank case I'd guess at least 14 quarts are needed.
06-22-2013, 01:02 AM
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07-08-2013, 07:24 PM
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07-09-2013, 05:42 AM
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07-09-2013, 07:16 AM
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I'm far from being a tree-hugger and think that Prius's are a joke but, 16 cylinders............come on! There would be no reason for the existence of a 16 cylinder engine in a passenger car especially when 1000 hp is very achievable with V8's and V10's. It just wouldn't make sense. I mean, look at the Veyron. It's a fat heavy car equipped with a 16-cylinder engine for no reason but to tout the fact it has 16 cylinders. Its horsepower could have easily been achieved with the Audi V8 or V10. Don't get me wrong, I love my V8 but I think 16 cylinders is definitely overkill.
07-09-2013, 08:06 AM
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I'm far from being a tree-hugger and think that Prius's are a joke but, 16 cylinders............come on! There would be no reason for the existence of a 16 cylinder engine in a passenger car especially when 1000 hp is very achievable with V8's and V10's. It just wouldn't make sense. I mean, look at the Veyron. It's a fat heavy car equipped with a 16-cylinder engine for no reason but to tout the fact it has 16 cylinders. Its horsepower could have easily been achieved with the Audi V8 or V10. Don't get me wrong, I love my V8 but I think 16 cylinders is definitely overkill.
But IMO, "legitimate"reasons can be the challenge to design, engineer and build artifacts, explore the abilities of mankind, and to bring some fun into our lives.
07-10-2013, 07:19 AM
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Of course there is no reason for the existence of the V16 engine, like there is - strictly spoken - no reason for the existence of the Corvette either. Or for a luxury yacht, an expensive Rolex, racing the 24H of Le Mans, bringing a man to the Moon, and so on.
But IMO, "legitimate"reasons can be the challenge to design, engineer and build artifacts, explore the abilities of mankind, and to bring some fun into our lives.
But IMO, "legitimate"reasons can be the challenge to design, engineer and build artifacts, explore the abilities of mankind, and to bring some fun into our lives.
"Legitimate" reasons are not always a challenge to design. Why add complexity to a design when there is no need to do so. Complexity is not conducive to reliability and sometimes hinders proper performance. Just look at GM with the LS series engines. They could have gone with more complex quad cam, multivalve designs but they didn't. Why? Because they could achieve astronomical horsepower ratings with a simple, more compact, lighter 2-valve/ cylinder engine. THAT is great engineering in my opinion.
07-10-2013, 08:47 AM
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I agree with everything you say but the point I was trying to make is; it doesn't make sense to put a 16-cylinder engine in a passenger car when you can achieve the same horsepower figures with a smaller, lighter engine. From an engineering standpoint, a smaller engine would provide you with a lighter and better handling car chassis and give you better options for engine placement within that chassis.
"Legitimate" reasons are not always a challenge to design. Why add complexity to a design when there is no need to do so. Complexity is not conducive to reliability and sometimes hinders proper performance. Just look at GM with the LS series engines. They could have gone with more complex quad cam, multivalve designs but they didn't. Why? Because they could achieve astronomical horsepower ratings with a simple, more compact, lighter 2-valve/ cylinder engine. THAT is great engineering in my opinion.
"Legitimate" reasons are not always a challenge to design. Why add complexity to a design when there is no need to do so. Complexity is not conducive to reliability and sometimes hinders proper performance. Just look at GM with the LS series engines. They could have gone with more complex quad cam, multivalve designs but they didn't. Why? Because they could achieve astronomical horsepower ratings with a simple, more compact, lighter 2-valve/ cylinder engine. THAT is great engineering in my opinion.
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07-10-2013, 11:31 AM
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If Caddy want to be taken seriously they need to hire new designers, hire management who doesn't wish they worked at BMW, and offer top level products at least on the level of Hyundai. Seriously, their top level car is a gussied up Impala. Hyundai at least offers a top level big RWD sedan with a V8.
Caddy couldn't possibly sell something like this successfully. They'd have no way
to compete with companies making beautiful luxury cars like Aston Martin, Ferrari, Maserati, etc. And something this unique would be priced in that area.
Caddy should just make a new XLR. It will probably fail miserably again, but it's worth a try.
And IMO, this car is hideous. The lines are a mess of different styles that don't work together, the proportions are all wrong, and it's just not appealing to look at.
Caddy couldn't possibly sell something like this successfully. They'd have no way
to compete with companies making beautiful luxury cars like Aston Martin, Ferrari, Maserati, etc. And something this unique would be priced in that area.
Caddy should just make a new XLR. It will probably fail miserably again, but it's worth a try.
And IMO, this car is hideous. The lines are a mess of different styles that don't work together, the proportions are all wrong, and it's just not appealing to look at.