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Old 06-23-2023, 03:15 PM
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And what % of people can afford a Model X or whatever, maybe not as high but just as meaningful.

All of that is good but your Model X in 5 years will be worth next to nothing, a Porsche 911 Turbos S lightweight will be worth close to what you paid for, doubt me, look up any special Porsche from 2017.

A 2017 Model X P100D was about $140,000 new, now you can get them for about 50k, so you lose 90k in 5 years, now let's look at 911 Turbo S, a new one was $190k and now they are fetching $150k, losing $40k....hmmmm, cost of ownership over 5 years sure as hell isn't near 50k so there's that.
Now... let's say I buy a new $250k Turbo S. I now have $250k tied up in a car..
Now, if I buy a Model X for $120k, I have another $130k to invest. In 5 years, I can make about $75k in return from an $130k investment..
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
Now... let's say I buy a new $250k Turbo S. I now have $250k tied up in a car..
Now, if I buy a Model X for $120k, I have another $130k to invest. In 5 years, I can make about $75k in return from an $130k investment..
Well what if you are Elon Musk and money was a non issue, whether or not someone can afford the vehicle is irrelevant, it's the numbers aka facts that are the center of discussion. To a poor person neither of the two are within the realm of possibility, to a rich person both are.
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Well what if you are Elon Musk and money was a non issue, whether or not someone can afford the vehicle is irrelevant, it's the numbers aka facts that are the center of discussion. To a poor person neither of the two are within the realm of possibility, to a rich person both are.
If I could afford any car I want, I would have a bunch of them.. A Turbo S, a Aventador and a RIMAC Nevera would be in my garage as well as my Model X Plaid.
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If I could afford any car I want, I would have a bunch of them.. A Turbo S, a Aventador and a RIMAC Nevera would be in my garage as well as my Model X Plaid.
on that we can agree, so would I including an S Plaid, probably not the Aventador with the Reuvalto coming out.
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on that we can agree, so would I including an S Plaid, probably not the Aventador with the Reuvalto coming out.
Even if I was a Billionaire, I would never get a Bugatti. Cost of maintenance on those is obscene and Feraris, Lambos and Porsches look better.
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Originally Posted by Z06_BluByU
seems like much more than that from a quick google..

https://www.tesla-fire.com

Am i reading this correctly.. does Tesla have the highest insurance fire relative losses of anyone?

https://www.iihs.org/media/c93b98d8-...osses_1218.pdf

crickets...
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Even if I was a Billionaire, I would never get a Bugatti. Cost of maintenance on those is obscene and Feraris, Lambos and Porsches look better.
way overrated car, nice to look at, maybe borrow a billionaire friend's for an afternoon but other than that, I don't think I would, probably same about a Koenigsegg, I don't find them too aesthetically pleasing and I wouldn't pay 3 mill for their performance.
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Originally Posted by Z06_BluByU
crickets...
your 2nd link is from 2018 with virtually no Teslas on the road, so, not enough sample size
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Get an AMG One. Just for the flex, lol! "Full $1M engine rebuild every 30k miles..."
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
your 2nd link is from 2018 with virtually no Teslas on the road, so, not enough sample size
its all adjusted for qty and exposure miles.... does far worse than similar sample sized
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Originally Posted by Z06_BluByU
its all adjusted for qty and exposure miles.... does far worse than similar sample sized
Show the same repprt now with 2.5 Million Teslas on the road compared to 30000.. No comparison.
The only way you can make a point is with old numbers.
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that's the latest report.. and its adjusted for volume. 7x more fires than some cars with similar production volume.. pretty high Id say. just get yourself nice high quality Nomex clothing and footwear, emergency escape equipment and remember to charge outside!

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