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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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I have these paint codes from http://www.corvettepaintcodes.com/

Do any of you have the AKZO (or Sikkens) code for tuxedo black and Sunflower Yellow?


OEM Code Color Valspar Code PPG Code DuPont Code RM Code SW Code MS Code Azko Code WA Code
900 Tuxedo Black K090 9300 99 946 - 3069 - -

OEM Code Color Valspar Code PPG Code DuPont Code RM Code SW Code MS Code Azko Code WA Code
912 Sunflower Yellow Y1087 2338 5283 2422 - 4127 - 4145
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Originally Posted by cajos
I have these paint codes from http://www.corvettepaintcodes.com/

Do any of you have the AKZO (or Sikkens) code for tuxedo black and Sunflower Yellow?


OEM Code Color Valspar Code PPG Code DuPont Code RM Code SW Code MS Code Azko Code WA Code
900 Tuxedo Black K090 9300 99 946 - 3069 - -

OEM Code Color Valspar Code PPG Code DuPont Code RM Code SW Code MS Code Azko Code WA Code
912 Sunflower Yellow Y1087 2338 5283 2422 - 4127 - 4145
There was a song in the sixties, Black is Black.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Thanks very helpful, your hereby promote to Super CF Senior Member, due to your wisdom and deep insights into the matter.
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Thanks very helpful, your hereby promote to Super CF Senior Member, due to your wisdom and deep insights into the matter.
Well it is true. Every company has a gloss black. No matter what they call it. Tuxedo black is just a name, nothing else. Just call them and ask what their gloss black is. As for the yellow, I dont think either company is going to have a formula for it, not even the domestic companies. Now I am going to crawl back into my old hole and go back to sleep.

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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 03:25 AM
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Thx sleep well.

I was hoping that someone used one of them and had the perfect match color.
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Thx sleep well.

I was hoping that someone used one of them and had the perfect match color.
The problem with old colors is that the modern materials have changed. No one with these mega companies has gone back and reformulated the old colors. There is no demand for it. So they go back and color match by approximation. They choose a color that is close. So the formulas that you might come up with from one of these companies is just an "offset" color. Sometimes it it a good match, sometimes it is not. There might be an individual or small specialty company out there that has come up with a good custom match. That is the question that you should ask, if you want to find a good match. It is funny, Even in the old days different brands were not exact matches anyway. The common method used then to match colors was a bunch of women in a room looking at test panels. The consensus match was used as the company formulation. They used women, because they are not color blind like men. And, the new formulations are not as good as far as color match. So, even in the same color, you can get multiple colors. There are as many as 10 alternates sometimes for the same color.

In conclusion each company is different and there are even variations within a company. You have a better chance with black than any other color, so maybe " Black is Black".
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Hmmm,
My painter said he will mix the yellow color, I thought I'd help him finding European or modern equivalents. Do you have specs on the new racing Yellow of the C6. Surely that seems to be close to 1972 Sun Flower yellow. Hey is just looked up New Hill, you are close to Wilmington!! My buddy lives there!! He is collecting my Corvette stuff and ships it to The Netherlands.
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Hmmm,
My painter said he will mix the yellow color, I thought I'd help him finding European or modern equivalents. Do you have specs on the new racing Yellow of the C6. Surely that seems to be close to 1972 Sun Flower yellow. Hey is just looked up New Hill, you are close to Wilmington!! My buddy lives there!! He is collecting my Corvette stuff and ships it to The Netherlands.
Wilmington is 2 plus hrs. away. If he needs anything that I can help with, no problem. Sorry, I dont have any information on the new yellow other than the local company codes. My guess is that any of your local suppliers can come up with their own easily.
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Hhahah just had a word with the painter his brand is BASF who own RM colors are in his mixing computer ;-).

Thanks for the offer!!
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for BASF... I used to use A1240 on completes. Now I think it is A1250. (this is chemical base coat) I don't about waterbase yet.

Standox is Deep Black (ppg's Black is a little darker) Standox also has a "real black" looks like ground up carbon.

Spies is 2003

DuPont is 9900. DuPonts 805J is a blue black that can be mixed in Chroma Base,Premier, or single stage. It matched pretty good to American cars.

Sikkens is just "jet black". (for their darkest black)

You have to spray them out. And color match like any other color.

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black is not allways blk
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Guy's Thanks for the replies.

This post can be closed, my painter has all recipes in his mix computer, no problem!!

Thanks
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Originally Posted by CharlesPeoples
black is not allways blk
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, dont close it yet.

I have a question Charles. Just when is Black not Black?
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Hahaha, be glad you don't live in Europe. We have all your brands and the European brands and all the others.
Take Alfa Romeo their black is a brown black
Or Opel is a dark purple
Renault is a blue black.
Black is a extremely dark version of some other color
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