Complete repaint help
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Racer
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Complete repaint help
Hi,
I originally had a black 91 vert, which three years ago went to red. Thepainter did such a terrible job that the red in the door jambs flaked off and other areas of the car exposing the original black.
I would like to restore the car to the original black, so took the car to a new painter (lambrghini workshop in hong kong, they are supposed to be the best painters, but are having trouble with the fibreglass). I was thinking they should remove the new red paint before painting the black over it. They are saying that they want to leave the red layers on and just spray black over them again.
Would anyone be able to advise the best method to proceed?
Thanks so much!
I originally had a black 91 vert, which three years ago went to red. Thepainter did such a terrible job that the red in the door jambs flaked off and other areas of the car exposing the original black.
I would like to restore the car to the original black, so took the car to a new painter (lambrghini workshop in hong kong, they are supposed to be the best painters, but are having trouble with the fibreglass). I was thinking they should remove the new red paint before painting the black over it. They are saying that they want to leave the red layers on and just spray black over them again.
Would anyone be able to advise the best method to proceed?
Thanks so much!
Melting Slicks
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If the red paint is falling off it needs to be removed completely before anything else goes on top. I would look for another shop which understands automotive refinish more completely than the one it is at now.
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Melting Slicks
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Racer
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Thanks guys, just as I suspected.
They are saying that by sanding they will damage the fibreglass and it wont be smooth.
Could you give me some advice to tell them on how to remove the old paint layers?
Thanks!
They are saying that by sanding they will damage the fibreglass and it wont be smooth.
Could you give me some advice to tell them on how to remove the old paint layers?
Thanks!
Heel & Toe
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I agree with the above statements the red has to come off. Also once you get too much of a paint build from too many repaints the new paint will dye back and you will see blemishes where the paint started to shrink on the old paint. Looks terrible!
Race Director
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To get paint off a Corvette you can use chemical strippers, media blasting, razor blades or sanding.
Melting Slicks
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My best advice is to find a shop which is comfortable working on your car. I would not wish my Corvette to be used as a learning experiment.
You already have experience with what can happen if preparation is less than optimal... why take that chance a second time?
You already have experience with what can happen if preparation is less than optimal... why take that chance a second time?
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Racer
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Could you recommend any reputable chemical stripper that can be used over fibreglass?
There is no other paint shop in HK that can handle this, thats why I had no option but to goto them in the first place unfortunately.
Appreciate all the responses so far, it looks like I'm going to have to research a lot more on this subject and do a step by step with them. Any more input from you guys would be so much appreciated.
There is no other paint shop in HK that can handle this, thats why I had no option but to goto them in the first place unfortunately.
Appreciate all the responses so far, it looks like I'm going to have to research a lot more on this subject and do a step by step with them. Any more input from you guys would be so much appreciated.
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Drifting
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Dailo, your C4 body is made of SMC, not fiberglass. So the shop that works on it must use products designed for use over SMC.
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You never use stripper on a C-4 or newer, C-3 or older if you must, and know what you are doing.
You think you have problems now, use stripper on a C-4, C5 or C6.
DA paint off with 80, that is how most of the pros do it or Soda/ walnut powder blast.
Personally, I use 80 or 180 to sand paint off after testing to see witch one works best depending on paint that is on there.
The red must come off.
You think you have problems now, use stripper on a C-4, C5 or C6.
DA paint off with 80, that is how most of the pros do it or Soda/ walnut powder blast.
Personally, I use 80 or 180 to sand paint off after testing to see witch one works best depending on paint that is on there.
The red must come off.
Le Mans Master
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Just one, not so competent, paint shop in Hong Kong. Now thats a capitalist opportunity if I ever saw one.
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Some panels can be totaled using lacquer thinner, depending with panel we are talking about.
I saw a chev dealer in Atlanta buy a new front bonnet with the 84's first come out because the idiot painter used lacquer paint thinner to clean a 4 inch warranty repair, after the fourth time redoing the front end, customer sue them and GM but they handled the problem real fast after that.
After customer was taken care of we tried to save the front end for three months trying different things from baking everyday and every kind of cleaner we could think of and it turned to scrap real fast.
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Many years ago I saw a C3 that was painted after being stripped with chemical stripper. The next day after the car was painted it had balloons of paint protruding all over it. Apparently the stripper had not fully gassed out of the fiberglass and was now pushing the paint off. The shop owner wanted to blame the paint company.
I used " Aircraft for Fiberglass" stripper on some spots on my 68. The rest was razored and sanded off.
I used " Aircraft for Fiberglass" stripper on some spots on my 68. The rest was razored and sanded off.
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what I need help with is finding blank templates in HO scale of trains, or ones done in CSX patterns (newer scheme with the grey/blue and yellow) so that way I can use them as mock ups and templates, as I want to use them for repainting some engines, but need more the shapes to "wrap" my engines in so as I paint them the colors go in the pattern as needed, engine shape isn't a big deal as most of my fleet will get the same pattern.