Performance Results Dyno sheets, Timeslips, Track Records, Who has the Fastest C5 Corvette?

line locks

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 12:18 AM
  #21  
petercln's Avatar
petercln
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,236
Likes: 2
From: Glendora CA
Default

I called Mr Gasket hurst's parent company and they said not to use the hurst line lock on my Z06. Guess I will us the Cartek unit even if the unit is made by hurst. I like the idea that i can just bolt something in place and not have to bend my own brake lines. Peter
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:36 PM
  #22  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

How much is the Cartek kit? I don't see it on their website. I was going to go with the Hurst until the post above says that Hurst says you shouldn't.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:58 PM
  #23  
'06 Quicksilver Z06's Avatar
'06 Quicksilver Z06
Team Owner
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 38,314
Likes: 35
Default

The Cartek kit is about 200 bucks and worth every dime. It does not show up on their web site, you'll have to give them a call.


Not having to bend or flare brake lines and having them the correct length, and made of to OEM standards is worth the savings in hassle you will realize when you go to install your line lock.

Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Mar 29, 2005 at 11:01 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:16 AM
  #24  
George8211's Avatar
George8211
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 2
From: Fountain Inn, South Carolina
Default

This looks GREAT !! I like the location of line lock button. I hate cluttering up the interior.

Originally Posted by EB20003
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:40 AM
  #25  
dragonfly's Avatar
dragonfly
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 251
Likes: 1
From: Sunny Melbourne FL
Default

How is the cartek kit on instructions? pretty straight forward?
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 03:11 AM
  #26  
WALLstAL's Avatar
WALLstAL
Race Director
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 15,466
Likes: 0
From: GARDENA Ca, State Of Konfusion
St. Jude Donor '05
Default

Originally Posted by George8211
This looks GREAT !! I like the location of line lock button. I hate cluttering up the interior.
I might just relocate my button!! I paid $250 back in 01!
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:27 AM
  #27  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

Originally Posted by EB20003
The Cartek kit is about 200 bucks and worth every dime. It does not show up on their web site, you'll have to give them a call.


Not having to bend or flare brake lines and having them the correct length, and made of to OEM standards is worth the savings in hassle you will realize when you go to install your line lock.
Thanks for the info.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 03:16 PM
  #28  
16Again's Avatar
16Again
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 46,766
Likes: 5
From: Boynton Beach Florida
St. Jude Donor '07-'12, '20
Default

Just another idea for the button. This is from B&M however Hurst makes the same thing.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:31 PM
  #29  
'06 Quicksilver Z06's Avatar
'06 Quicksilver Z06
Team Owner
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 38,314
Likes: 35
Default

Originally Posted by George8211
This looks GREAT !! I like the location of line lock button. I hate cluttering up the interior.

Thanks
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2005 | 12:09 AM
  #30  
Corpsvette's Avatar
Corpsvette
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Veteran: Marine Corps
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,026
Likes: 178
From: Jacksonville, NC
Default

What does a line lock do? THanks,

Jim K.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2005 | 12:36 AM
  #31  
'06 Quicksilver Z06's Avatar
'06 Quicksilver Z06
Team Owner
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 38,314
Likes: 35
Default

A line lock locks the front brakes without engaging the rear brakes. Since the rear wheels will now spin freely, it makes burnouts a lot easier. It is a convenient way to heat up the rear tires and make them sticky for drag racing. Assuming that they are soft compound tires.

It is engaged by pressing and holding the brake pedal. Then pushing and holding the line lock button. Releasing the brake pedal while still holding the button. Now the front brakes are engaged but not the rears. Now if you at this point get on the gas, while holding the button, the rear wheels will spin and smoke up/heat up/ become sticky if you are running soft compound tires.

Release the button and the car will roll ahead normally but with hotter, stickier rear tires. This of course helps to improve traction.

Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Mar 31, 2005 at 12:39 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2005 | 01:18 AM
  #32  
Corpsvette's Avatar
Corpsvette
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Veteran: Marine Corps
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,026
Likes: 178
From: Jacksonville, NC
Default

Ahhhh Haaaa, that explains how those guys were burning thru the rubber at the track. Interesting. Thanks for the info EB.

Jim K.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2005 | 08:00 AM
  #33  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

...or you can just pop your clutch in second gear to do your burnout while gently applying enough brake to keep the car from rolling forward. That is what I do. Still trying to decide if I want to drop the 2 bones for a lock. The burnout would be a little prettier but still not sure if it is worth it to me.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2005 | 10:24 AM
  #34  
Dr.Ron's Avatar
Dr.Ron
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,251
Likes: 217
From: 2007 Nat'l Corvette Challenge 11.50 index Champ. New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by Cajundude
...or you can just pop your clutch in second gear to do your burnout while gently applying enough brake to keep the car from rolling forward. That is what I do. Still trying to decide if I want to drop the 2 bones for a lock. The burnout would be a little prettier but still not sure if it is worth it to me.

It's pretty easy to do a burnout w/o the line lock, but I will say that it probably does save you some rear brake pad wear...
Ron
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2005 | 04:36 PM
  #35  
'06 Quicksilver Z06's Avatar
'06 Quicksilver Z06
Team Owner
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 38,314
Likes: 35
Default

Originally Posted by Dr.Ron
It's pretty easy to do a burnout w/o the line lock, but I will say that it probably does save you some rear brake pad wear...
Ron

and thats why I went with a line lock. Your rear brake pads are going to wear a bit more if you do burnouts w/o the line lock.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 04:20 PM
  #36  
NIGHTMARE...2001's Avatar
NIGHTMARE...2001
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 789
Likes: 0
From: BF Egypt Tx
Default Line lock???

Take it from someone who knows...GET A LINELOCK! I'm having to replace my entire differential, due to burn-outs while braking, at the track!
The rear gears are whining way above what is normal, due to damage incurred while doing burnouts w/o a line lock. This, per DTE appraisal of damage. Now I have to buy ANOTHER stg. 2, 3:73 diff. and line lock, just to get rid of what is the loudest whining I have ever heard from a C5 differential! Take heed!!!
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 04:47 PM
  #37  
Sportsdude's Avatar
Sportsdude
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,838
Likes: 1
From: Volusia. Las Vegas FL, NV
Default

Is there instruction on how to install Cartek line lock?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To line locks

Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:13 PM
  #38  
DTE Powertrain's Avatar
DTE Powertrain
Collections Hold
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,899
Likes: 6
From: Fort Wayne Indiana
Default

FYI for those interested...

From our experience in building over 500 of these units to date, the greatest cause of differential clutch pack failure is due to the extreme overheating of the sintered bronze clutch discs within the clutch pack assy. while doing an aggressive water-box burnout (or any type of burnout for that matter) while the brakes are applied.

Often times, the rear brakes do not apply the same holding force from side-to-side when applied in a burnout scenario, which causes one wheel to spin at a faster rate than the other; therefore forcing the differentiating assy./clutch pack/spider gear assy. to operate at elevated torsional loads due to the excessive wheel-to-wheel speed differentiation.

Excessive, uncontrolled heat rapidly ensues within the clutch pack assy. which not only cokes/burns the lubricant almost immediately, but partially welds/seers the clutch pack discs together. All of the additional metal particulate from this severe overheating/wearing event has to go somewhere, so the now-burned lubricant carries it throughout the differential assy- plugging the oiling passages, severely damaging the bearings, races, internal differentiating assy. and ultimately the gear set. Once the lubricant is coked/burned, it effectively loses its ability to provide proper lubricity properties, cleaning effects and of course, cooling ability.

This very reason is why we STRONGLY recommend high performance synthetic lubricants for ALL those who do *any* type of racing, as the O.E. lubricant absolutely does NOT have the ability to withstand elevated differential temperatures typically encountered with racing use...period. It's bad enough that these units barely hold enough lubricant in the sump to do its job, let alone partially handicapping it even further by using poor O.E. lubricant that was never intended to be used in this manner.

We've seen this type of differential failure all too often manyyyyyy times before....



Best Regards,
DTE
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:54 PM
  #39  
16Again's Avatar
16Again
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 46,766
Likes: 5
From: Boynton Beach Florida
St. Jude Donor '07-'12, '20
Default

What type of rear end fluid do you recommend if not the factory fill?
Thanks
Bob
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:56 PM
  #40  
DTE Powertrain's Avatar
DTE Powertrain
Collections Hold
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,899
Likes: 6
From: Fort Wayne Indiana
Default

We've had outstanding success with Redline 75/90w in all of our HP differentials.

Best Regards,
DTE
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:27 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE