C5Z vs R6
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C5Z vs R6
So right before my car went into the shop I decided to have some fun with my friend on a closed course with an 07 Honda CBR600RR. It was pretty much just a base for me to see a before and after. He got me pretty good. Probably by about 4 cars, but up top I started to stop the pull, but there was no chance of coming back.
So today my friend stop making excuses with his RR and decided to finally except my challenge with my new motor. We went to the local "air strip" where we decided to do a pull from 70-130. This is my first test for the car since I've got my car out the shop with the new motor. I wasn't too sure of the possible outcome but have watched plenty of videos to have a good idea. So we did a three honk and I just walked him from the go. It was a pretty good consistent walk. I ended up about 5 cars on him and braked. There was just no chance. I think I am quickly getting use to the new power because at times it doesn't feel that fast to me but this surely confirms that it's there! I would have got a video but didn't want someone to record so I could save weight. I can't wait until I get nitrous!
My mods are in sig and he has exhaust and a power commander.
SORRY THE QUALITY IS SO CRAPPY IN VIDEO
So today my friend stop making excuses with his RR and decided to finally except my challenge with my new motor. We went to the local "air strip" where we decided to do a pull from 70-130. This is my first test for the car since I've got my car out the shop with the new motor. I wasn't too sure of the possible outcome but have watched plenty of videos to have a good idea. So we did a three honk and I just walked him from the go. It was a pretty good consistent walk. I ended up about 5 cars on him and braked. There was just no chance. I think I am quickly getting use to the new power because at times it doesn't feel that fast to me but this surely confirms that it's there! I would have got a video but didn't want someone to record so I could save weight. I can't wait until I get nitrous!
My mods are in sig and he has exhaust and a power commander.
SORRY THE QUALITY IS SO CRAPPY IN VIDEO
Last edited by ZOHSIX; Jan 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM. Reason: Wrong Type Of Bike, Not R6
Melting Slicks
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From: sterling ct
doesnt sound right
your car with rider 3500 lbs making 500 hp power/weight= 7.00
07 r6 366 dry 400 wet with 200 lb rider=600 lbs making 107 rwhp all day long bone stock= power/weight 5.6
he should walk you all day long....
your car with rider 3500 lbs making 500 hp power/weight= 7.00
07 r6 366 dry 400 wet with 200 lb rider=600 lbs making 107 rwhp all day long bone stock= power/weight 5.6
he should walk you all day long....
Melting Slicks
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there on factors here, powerband, torque, drag, driver etc.
I have no problems with 600s either from a high roll. but down low it probably take you
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having raced a bike for 5 years, i think i can comment from experience. the most difficult part is leaving...60foot clutch/throttle control. beyond 60 feet you have 4 shifts to make/tuck behind the wind screen and than wait until you cross the 1320...
a 2005-06-07 r6 will run high 10's @ 125 to low 11's similar mph with a rider from 150-200 lbs with a 1.65 60 foot. i have seen too many runs from the 600's cc bikes not to say this with 100% confidence...bottom line...if you did beat a 600, the rider was in the wrong gear, way outside of the power band when you hunked, and than they had to down shift to 2nd gear..these bikes rev to 15k less than 10k and they are a slug...and or you have 1 bad *** vette running in the solid 10's
a 2005-06-07 r6 will run high 10's @ 125 to low 11's similar mph with a rider from 150-200 lbs with a 1.65 60 foot. i have seen too many runs from the 600's cc bikes not to say this with 100% confidence...bottom line...if you did beat a 600, the rider was in the wrong gear, way outside of the power band when you hunked, and than they had to down shift to 2nd gear..these bikes rev to 15k less than 10k and they are a slug...and or you have 1 bad *** vette running in the solid 10's
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I dont doubt your car pulls hard, but your not taking him down that easy. Don't know how long hes been riding but I doubt he was geared down far enough. With your power hes going to get out on you a little no matter where you go from. New 600s roll out hard, I rode my boys 07 R6 and was rather impressed.
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Well you all have brought very good points but I would like to pull from a couple of peoples comments.
First I know he is a very good rider. This was not some impromptu race so we both staged and got in the prospective gear ready to roll. One of you mentioned that the bike runs high 10's or low 11's at 125. I have seen 460rwhp corvettes run in the high 10's with a 346ci. Yet these are very good drivers in the upmost conditions, we are talking about from a roll. So doing the math you shouldn't have any doubt about the statements above. If it makes any difference my car dynoed 521 uncorrected. I'm sure with the right driver and conditons my car could pull off 10's.
On a note to post with the rest the bike at no point pulled on me and it for the benefit of the doubt it may not have been 6-7 cars but he was no where close. From a dig it could be a different story. But everyone knows up top these bikes don't perform well.
First I know he is a very good rider. This was not some impromptu race so we both staged and got in the prospective gear ready to roll. One of you mentioned that the bike runs high 10's or low 11's at 125. I have seen 460rwhp corvettes run in the high 10's with a 346ci. Yet these are very good drivers in the upmost conditions, we are talking about from a roll. So doing the math you shouldn't have any doubt about the statements above. If it makes any difference my car dynoed 521 uncorrected. I'm sure with the right driver and conditons my car could pull off 10's.
On a note to post with the rest the bike at no point pulled on me and it for the benefit of the doubt it may not have been 6-7 cars but he was no where close. From a dig it could be a different story. But everyone knows up top these bikes don't perform well.
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I have a little over 500+ rwhp and I have pulled several 600's. I know someone will give me the BS flag
bs ), but on the higher speeds going around corners I have hung with some of the bigger liter bikes as well. Maybe they could ride and maybe the could'nt but I still stayed with them long enough to get the thumbs up 
. Or maybe I will just keep the peddle smashed a little longer than them,LOL And yes I have had dirtbikes since I was 10years old and street bikes since I was 18 so I'm not talking out of my A%*.
Keep rolling them and then do more mods,LOL!!!!!
bs ), but on the higher speeds going around corners I have hung with some of the bigger liter bikes as well. Maybe they could ride and maybe the could'nt but I still stayed with them long enough to get the thumbs up . Or maybe I will just keep the peddle smashed a little longer than them,LOL And yes I have had dirtbikes since I was 10years old and street bikes since I was 18 so I'm not talking out of my A%*.Keep rolling them and then do more mods,LOL!!!!!
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I have seen plenty of videos of modded vettes and terminators pulling 600's. It seems the terminators with twin screws and a good flowing exhuast can pull them pretty hard. Now some of these videos could be fake as I was not there in person to confirm it but it seems like a lot of trouble to go through to make your self look good. To the original poster sounds like your car is one bad vette 
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From what alot of members have posted the actual scale weights to be on thier cars..... it seems that GM's figure is on the high side, I have seen countless people post weights under 3100lbs and that includes antifreeze, oil and some gas.
The OP's car should be trapping up into the mid 120's with no problem providing the HP levels...... from a dig a good rider on a 600 would most likely win the race but from a 70mph roll I can see the race going either way depending on both driver/rider skill level. I will tell you not to go picking races with any big bore bikes because your results will definately change
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Unless the guy riding the bike is really good, my money would be on your 500+hp Z, certainly from a roll.
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Also 125mph isn't quite enough to get it done from a roll against a 520rwhp Corvette. Have you even checked the timeslip database to see what 500rwhp Vettes trap? Most of them are well over 130mph and we all know 1/4 mph determines a lot in a roll race taking the launch out of the equation.
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So I guess you are right with your GM, liquid weight and driver weighs and the people that actually weigh their cars at the track on the scales are wrong?
Also 125mph isn't quite enough to get it done from a roll against a 520rwhp Corvette. Have you even checked the timeslip database to see what 500rwhp Vettes trap? Most of them are well over 130mph and we all know 1/4 mph determines a lot in a roll race taking the launch out of the equation.
Also 125mph isn't quite enough to get it done from a roll against a 520rwhp Corvette. Have you even checked the timeslip database to see what 500rwhp Vettes trap? Most of them are well over 130mph and we all know 1/4 mph determines a lot in a roll race taking the launch out of the equation.
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From: sterling ct
than again....you have to think what the owner of the 600 thinks.. he has 8-10k total in his ride... and the 500hp owner has 60+ (this is any bike owners bottom line way of thinking)
my 00 turbo busa would annihilate any car from any speed regardless of how much money they would throw at their ride... i even did a two up race (me/passanger) since the owner of a turbo viper -1000hp was bitching that my bike was built for one not two like a car...no race...he was dust...
my 00 turbo busa would annihilate any car from any speed regardless of how much money they would throw at their ride... i even did a two up race (me/passanger) since the owner of a turbo viper -1000hp was bitching that my bike was built for one not two like a car...no race...he was dust...
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jeez what's with all the hating going on in here? give the guy some props, he's got a fast, well built car. why is it so hard for people to believe that a 500+ whp vette can pull on a 600?
when will people learn and understand that on the street, magazine racing means nothing.
when will people learn and understand that on the street, magazine racing means nothing.