Not really what I was expecting to hear.....

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I knew it wasn't

 

Guess I need to convert.

 

Fun is a relative term

 

Dont knock it until you try it, you can make a pass know mater how bad your back hurts, know need to change the slave fluid, no need to slip, make 10 great passes in a row no 11.00-10.00, you can eat a sandwich, hold your girl, check the DA call Rob and ask what was the 60 ft during the pass, and buy one great trans for the price of a clutch, and go faster plus no need to carry extra axles, could probably list a 100 more things

 

Yes,yes,yes and No. Nothing like rowing through the gears. Especially if your (owners) girl is helping lol

 

except about going faster part.

 

no doubt i would go quicker whith the Auto but faster whith the manual and the Auto should be more consitent i assume though my Auto experience is not good as it is.

i went few NA runs whith the Auto and i went 11.0-11.1 @125-126 60ft 1.65 no spinning!! ( i ran 10.8@130-132 last 3 NA runs whith manual 26"inch and 3.42 gears ) and the only diffrence other then the trans was i was not running Cutouts and not running the same plugs when running AUTO.

but the stall is 4200 multi disc (built for spray in mind) maby if it was a looser converter it would have gotten better 60ft , but it would definently run 10´s NA Auto as it is.

but a 3.42 gears in a Auto vs 3.42 gears in manual offcourse is not alike , manual whith 3.73 or 3.90 would get be better ET i think NA

i´m not saying the auto is better then manual or manual is better then Auto

Baezi

 

I think its really a job for the CF myth busters. Gary & Robz! I would love to see an automatic win both their cars setup with a nice converter

 

Robz's 388 with auto and 6200 stall.... Hhmmm I wonder if it would be quicker

 

All i can say is I always see people trying to break the manual record, never the automatic recordboth those cars would see at least a .50

 

Not sure that is the case.

Still being chased after 5 long years of trying by LS1, LS6, LS2 and LS3 autos.
C5 Z06 External/Internal Bolt On times (stock cubes, n/a, cams, h/c, all bolt ons)
1---9.985 @ 138.80--1.428--robz----------'03 04/08------H/C, ET ST, Gears, Post 328, Slip

Perhaps someone can assist here. Was #2 an auto car?
C5 Z06 Naturally Aspirated Non-Stock Displacement (n/a 383, 402, 408, 427, etc)
1---9.328@145.39-1.374-robz------ '03 10/10-388ci, Trick Flow Heads, DRs, Post 10, Slip
2--10.094@133.18-1.464-uluz------ '02 01/08-434ci, H/C, 90/90, Gears, Post 261, Slip

Okay- Let's do a little research in the C6 section. Only car that the 388 with a stick could not beat was the 427 turbo race car with a glide.
Larger Displacement (All entries)
07.982 @ 174.44 - Tluck - 05 A4 Z51 - 427cid, turbo, power glide, eldbrock intake, coil overs, & more, tune, DR - (6296)
09.513 @ 148.77 - Todd@RPM - 05 A4 -TT, 427cid, fuel sys, 3.42, L92 heads, RPM Trans, tune, DR - (4274)
09.681 @ 148.36 - Winters 97 GT - 08 M6 - 402, SC, alky, B&B mufflers, tune, DR - (5881)
09.751 @ 147.05 - Icevettez06 - 05 M6 - 402 APSTT, alky, fast, fuel system, Z06 trans, more, tune, DR - (6301)
09.895 @ 138.76 - Blue RacerC6 - 05 A4 Z51 - SC LPE 427,N20 (100) & RPM trans, tune, DR - (4273)
09.950 @ 139.26 - Thesubfloor - 07 A6 – LS7, CAI, cb, conv, 3.42 H&C forged int, tune, DR - (4465)
10.290 @ 137.43 - Deecount - 09 A6 Npp 2.73 - SC LPE 427, cam & pheads Ls9 Intake, more tune, DR - (6349)
10.369 @ 134.42 - Pete Champion Motors - 06 A6 – LS7, cam, cb, conv, fast, 3.15, forged int, ph, tune, DR - (5153)
10.416 @ 132.71 - RGSTOY - 07 A6 Z51 – LS7, conv, 3.42, hdr, tune, DR - (4194)
10.470 @ 130.89 - Craftfox - 07 A6 Z51 – 440cid, conv, fast, 3.42, hdr, tune, DR - (4444)

One more category while we are at it.
Internal Engine Modifications LS3
10.374 @ 133.59 - Matt@TuneTime - 08 M6 Z51- Cai, ewp, fast, hdr, H&C, 4.10, skinnies, tune, DR - (6378)
10.611 @ 131.81 - Turbovic - 08 M6 - cam, gto skinnies, hdr, mh, pi, tune, Z06 susp, tune, DR - (4609)
10.633 @ 132.44 - Max@Cartek - 08 M6 - Cartek 4X H&C package, DR - (3640)
10.662 @ 131.68 - Doug@ECS - 08 M6 Z51 NPP - Blistens, cai, 3.90, H &C, hdr, tune, DR - (3193)
10.673 @ 129.31 - Justinjor - 08 M6 Z51 NPP - CAI, cam, hdr, ptb/int, no fuse, skinnies, udp, tune, Zo6spring DR - (5904)
10.684 @ 125.49 - Bspc608 - 08 A4 Z51 NPP - CAI, cam, conv, 3.42, hdr, udp, tune, DR - (6495)

BTW- If I could run a 9.3-9.4 with an auto in the current C6Z setup, I would not even hesitate.
Case in point:
Here is the timeslip of a well-built H/C 427 auto racecar in great air at one of the best tracks in the country. (Car in right lane.) The manually shifted Z actually begins to out accelerate this car after the 330'. There is less than 0.02 difference in ET between the Bolt-On Z and the H/C auto.

 

All you stated is true, But you cant compare other cars, I have seen cars with heads and cam with nitrous, and with super chargers with automatics and sticks cant beat my LS2 bolt/on times, we're talking your times and Robs stick vs auto, your both way ahead of the pack and with an automaticthat 9.3 is doable and 9.7 everytime

 

Thanks Dennis for your props. I'm not sure how drive one of those things. Marshall was kind enough to lend me his car at an event and I staged, mashed the throttle, and took off like a bat out of h&%%. I was in a state of confusion not knowing what to do with my right hand and left foot. It was scary.

baezi z06- Sorry for taking up your thread with the auto versus stick debate but it's all your fault. Claiming that you like the auto better gave Dennis all the ammunition he needs.
Nice pics btw.

 

One more thought with your analogy, would that mean my bolt/on car could have ran how much faster with a stick

 

I have a strange feeling robz's 6 speed 346 H/C record might be toped soon ...

It's certainly been done already but they haven't posted on the fast lists here.

 

If it has I can already see the heads and cam going on Robs bolt/on motor, with the number it put down in such poor conditions H&C will put it back to #1

 

Nah!! you think so?

It's now a full race car. Besides, what would it really mean running against daily driven street cars? If it hasn't been logged in the C5 Z06 section with the bolt-on record, why go with the H/C one? rob would have the bolt-on record and I doubt that is gonna happen on the list.

Just my opinion ...

 

Well if it was me. You dont have to enter the same day to a list, Rob probably already has a great bolt/on slip, now with you needling him with ha ha Rob got beat He will get a better H&C time, Then a better CI time, and he has a Grand Slam to enter. But this is just speculation, Well if it was me I dont think Rob's car is a full out race car, not after seeing the FASTEST STREET CARS in the country.

 

rob already said that it was NOT his intent to take the bolt-on record besides, it would only be the C5 Z06 (bolt-on) record.

You do have a point about the WORLDS fastest street cars! However, you and I have both seen faster street cars (then we are talking here) out GW hunting in the woods. Heck, my kids car with the 90mm single turbo should be running mid 8's. I seriously don't think he can drive it on the street 30 miles and make 3-4 passes with the only maintenance being done is tire pressure for example... Besides, none of the WORLDS FASTEST STREET cars drivers are going to have drivers licenses pretty soon the way the police are hunting them down!

Dennis, we are all on separate list so it's going to be hard for one to take the "grand slam", no?