Not worth it items thread?
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Antonio Texas
Not worth it items thread?
So to me, this seems liek a good palce to post a thread of "these things claim X HP here, and are totally or nearly totally bogus/unverified/ridiculous". Things such as:
* Smooth air coupler 3-5HP
* Carbon fiber power ducts/bridge 5-7HP
* "Throttle body air flow booster" 13HP (sorry can't help this one:
)
* "Performance hood seal" unspecified gain
* Throttle body coolant bypass 2-5HP
I know there are more so chime in guys. I'd like to think this thread could save new owners money
After all if the above worked hmm lesse ...that'd be 23-30 HP for about ... what 150-200 bucks?
If only.
Now some ones I'm suspicious of ...
* modified MAF (claiming 10-15 RWHP) (~400 bucks)
* "improved" MAF housing (claiming 9HP) (60-100 bucks)
* recalibrated/moved MAT Sensor (claiming 5-8 hp) (30 bucks)
I know there is more but I happen to be sitting here looking at a MidAmerica catalog and those are up front.
* Smooth air coupler 3-5HP
* Carbon fiber power ducts/bridge 5-7HP
* "Throttle body air flow booster" 13HP (sorry can't help this one:
)* "Performance hood seal" unspecified gain
* Throttle body coolant bypass 2-5HP
I know there are more so chime in guys. I'd like to think this thread could save new owners money
After all if the above worked hmm lesse ...that'd be 23-30 HP for about ... what 150-200 bucks?
If only.Now some ones I'm suspicious of ...
* modified MAF (claiming 10-15 RWHP) (~400 bucks)
* "improved" MAF housing (claiming 9HP) (60-100 bucks)
* recalibrated/moved MAT Sensor (claiming 5-8 hp) (30 bucks)
I know there is more but I happen to be sitting here looking at a MidAmerica catalog and those are up front.
Safety Car
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From: Aurora IL
Re: Not worth it items thread? (TheDarkKnight)
Performance hood seal does not up the HP, but it sure does keep a lot of mong and nard out of the engine bay. It is not a performance MOD per se, it is a clean MOD for certian.
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Burning Brakes
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (CAPN17)
Performance hood seal does not up the HP, but it sure does keep a lot of mong and nard out of the engine bay. It is not a performance MOD per se, it is a clean MOD for certian.
"mong and nard"
Navigator
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (TheDarkKnight)
Any feedback on the items below?
Just wondering too...
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Now some ones I'm suspicious of ...
* modified MAF (claiming 10-15 RWHP) (~400 bucks)
* "improved" MAF housing (claiming 9HP) (60-100 bucks)
* recalibrated/moved MAT Sensor (claiming 5-8 hp) (30 bucks)
Just wondering too...
_______________
Now some ones I'm suspicious of ...
* modified MAF (claiming 10-15 RWHP) (~400 bucks)
* "improved" MAF housing (claiming 9HP) (60-100 bucks)
* recalibrated/moved MAT Sensor (claiming 5-8 hp) (30 bucks)
Melting Slicks
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (luisrh01)
There are aftermarket MAF's that deff work but they are hugh for FI motors mainly--vetterdstr has one that works great---ones like the Granny are junk and do nothing--I don't think the bypass gives any power but it keeps hot water from running through and warming the TB which could warm the air somewhat--
The modified MAF ends did give power and worked well but not needed since the newer 85mm MAF already adapted to this type of end and have no screen--
I have no idea about the relocation kit but I don't see how that could do anything--
The modified MAF ends did give power and worked well but not needed since the newer 85mm MAF already adapted to this type of end and have no screen--
I have no idea about the relocation kit but I don't see how that could do anything--
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Antonio Texas
Re: Not worth it items thread? (NEPTUNEBILL)
There are aftermarket MAF's that deff work but they are hugh for FI motors mainly--vetterdstr has one that works great---ones like the Granny are junk and do nothing--I don't think the bypass gives any power but it keeps hot water from running through and warming the TB which could warm the air somewhat--
The modified MAF ends did give power and worked well but not needed since the newer 85mm MAF already adapted to this type of end and have no screen--
I have no idea about the relocation kit but I don't see how that could do anything--
The modified MAF ends did give power and worked well but not needed since the newer 85mm MAF already adapted to this type of end and have no screen--
I have no idea about the relocation kit but I don't see how that could do anything--
If it does make a difference for "early" cars, but not for "later" ones that'd be good to know. Is this one of the changes made in 2000?. So earlier cars coudl benefit from the modified ends and dumping the screen?The claim on the relocation kit is that it reads "colder air".
Seems to me you'd want to to read the most accurate which would be closer, like where it is now.
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Antonio Texas
Re: Not worth it items thread? (TheDarkKnight)
Define "newer" If it does make a difference for "early" cars, but not for "later" ones that'd be good to know. Is this one of the changes made in 2000?. So earlier cars coudl benefit from the modified ends and dumping the screen?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Allentown PA
Re: Not worth it items thread? (TheDarkKnight)
You forgot:
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
Racer
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From: Roselle IL
Re: Not worth it items thread? (TheDarkKnight)
Regarding performance hood seal:
I have the $5 home depot custom version and while it does not make any HP, it offers me more peace of mind for me to do the ziptie mod.
I have the $5 home depot custom version and while it does not make any HP, it offers me more peace of mind for me to do the ziptie mod.
Racer
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From: COWFORD FL
Re: Not worth it items thread? (CYA-Vett)
You forgot:
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
Eight-ball valve stem caps = 2 rwhp each
1000 watt sound system that feeds power back into the electrical system through the speakers when standing next to another idiot with a 1000 watt sound system = 10-20 rwhp
Even though we make fun of the rice-rocket boyz here, let us not forget all the Corvette people who swear by $250 air cleaners, 160 F. t-stats, invisible Teflon sprays that reduce the CDx by 10 %, Torco and other miracle fuel additives with hundreds of octane numbers...
Team Owner
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (Sandra Bigwoode)
... let us not forget all the Corvette people who swear by $250 air cleaners, 160 F. t-stats, invisible Teflon sprays that reduce the CDx by 10 %, Torco and other miracle fuel additives with hundreds of octane numbers...
Mark
Melting Slicks
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From: North Manchester Indiana
Re: Not worth it items thread? (mdhmi)
hey now, i got one of the 200 air filters, use torco and have a 160 stat,,,PLUS a maggie and other goodies,, guess i didnt need any of it,, might as well give it away. I dont like going fast, doing rolling burnouts at 35 mph or smoking the rivers,, i guees I better sell the vette and buy a civic 
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (CYA-Vett)
You forgot:
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
LOL LOL I GUESS YOUR REFERRING TO THE YOUNG PUNK!!
Racer
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From: westhampton beach ny
Re: Not worth it items thread? (CYA-Vett)
You forgot:
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
thats classic!!!!
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Antonio Texas
Re: Not worth it items thread? (CYA-Vett)
You forgot:
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
Obnoxious 2 foot high rear wing, 11-17 HP
Neon undercarriage lights, 3-9 HP
Fart can, 15-25 HP
Lights on windshield wiper blades, 3-5 HP
Enornous Tach on dash, 12-17 HP
Any one body panel in primer, 20-30 HP
Emblems from a different car, 4-7 HP
oh well, I tried fo r aserius thread.
Drifting
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (TheDarkKnight)
There are aftermarket MAF's that deff work but they are hugh for FI motors mainly--vetterdstr has one that works great---ones like the Granny are junk and do nothing--I don't think the bypass gives any power but it keeps hot water from running through and warming the TB which could warm the air somewhat--
The modified MAF ends did give power and worked well but not needed since the newer 85mm MAF already adapted to this type of end and have no screen--
I have no idea about the relocation kit but I don't see how that could do anything--
Define "newer" If it does make a difference for "early" cars, but not for "later" ones that'd be good to know. Is this one of the changes made in 2000?. So earlier cars coudl benefit from the modified ends and dumping the screen?
The claim on the relocation kit is that it reads "colder air". Seems to me you'd want to to read the most accurate which would be closer, like where it is now.
The modified MAF ends did give power and worked well but not needed since the newer 85mm MAF already adapted to this type of end and have no screen--
I have no idea about the relocation kit but I don't see how that could do anything--
Define "newer"
If it does make a difference for "early" cars, but not for "later" ones that'd be good to know. Is this one of the changes made in 2000?. So earlier cars coudl benefit from the modified ends and dumping the screen?The claim on the relocation kit is that it reads "colder air".
Seems to me you'd want to to read the most accurate which would be closer, like where it is now.
Any idea on what years? I have a 99 so would be be better if I bored out the MAF sensor and pulled the screens?
Race Director
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (mdhmi)
Roller rockers:
SLP calims (now they've added the words "UP TO") 18 HP & TQ.. Does not indicate flywheel or rear..
Even if it was flywheel, at a 20% drivetrain loss that would be 14.4 RWHP
I got 50% LESS!!! With their package, I got 7 RWHP & 8 TQ..
Rockers=WASTE! http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...RTNUMBER=53304
[Modified by YO-EL, 9:06 AM 6/20/2004]
SLP calims (now they've added the words "UP TO") 18 HP & TQ.. Does not indicate flywheel or rear..
Even if it was flywheel, at a 20% drivetrain loss that would be 14.4 RWHP
I got 50% LESS!!! With their package, I got 7 RWHP & 8 TQ..
Rockers=WASTE! http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...RTNUMBER=53304
[Modified by YO-EL, 9:06 AM 6/20/2004]
Melting Slicks
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Re: Not worth it items thread? (Sandra Bigwoode)
<b let us not forget all the Corvette people who swear by $250 air cleaners, 160 F. t-stats, invisible Teflon sprays that reduce the CDx by 10 %, Torco and other miracle fuel additives with hundreds of octane numbers...
