at your comment. You were the one who started with hateful comments. 
[Z06] Are corvettes really this tractionless? Please help me with tires :(
Pro
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2008 will be the first year in quite awhile that TC will be completely turned off.
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Melting Slicks
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I think I over reacted a little about the video. I had just got finished reading a thread about a local kid who killed an older man in a head on collision and was killed himself. The circumstances of the accident are still under investigation but its clear that wreckless driving was the culprit.
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=42642
I don't condone reckless driving, which I believe that video clearly was, but it didn't deserve the response I gave in my post. I just get pissed off when I see cars weaving in and out of traffic and doing stupid things like making lane changes in an intersection and passing on the right. You never know what is going on in the car you are illegally passing or if someone going thru that intersection didn't notice your lane change.
Its one thing to endanger your safety on a closed track but its something completely different when there are other cars on the road.
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=42642
I don't condone reckless driving, which I believe that video clearly was, but it didn't deserve the response I gave in my post. I just get pissed off when I see cars weaving in and out of traffic and doing stupid things like making lane changes in an intersection and passing on the right. You never know what is going on in the car you are illegally passing or if someone going thru that intersection didn't notice your lane change.
Its one thing to endanger your safety on a closed track but its something completely different when there are other cars on the road.
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I just wanna know if yall go to other sites and watch videos, cause I think some if you guys might have a heart attack and die on the spot if you saw some of them.
If I posted any of my vids I think I'd be banned instantly lol.
If I posted any of my vids I think I'd be banned instantly lol.
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From: Spicewood, TX
I think I over reacted a little about the video. I had just got finished reading a thread about a local kid who killed an older man in a head on collision and was killed himself. The circumstances of the accident are still under investigation but its clear that wreckless driving was the culprit.
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=42642
I don't condone reckless driving, which I believe that video clearly was, but it didn't deserve the response I gave in my post. I just get pissed off when I see cars weaving in and out of traffic and doing stupid things like making lane changes in an intersection and passing on the right. You never know what is going on in the car you are illegally passing or if someone going thru that intersection didn't notice your lane change.
Its one thing to endanger your safety on a closed track but its something completely different when there are other cars on the road.
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=42642
I don't condone reckless driving, which I believe that video clearly was, but it didn't deserve the response I gave in my post. I just get pissed off when I see cars weaving in and out of traffic and doing stupid things like making lane changes in an intersection and passing on the right. You never know what is going on in the car you are illegally passing or if someone going thru that intersection didn't notice your lane change.
Its one thing to endanger your safety on a closed track but its something completely different when there are other cars on the road.
I try and do my craziness late late at night on the Bush where I got about 7 lanes to do my thing.
I've definately been dumb before though.
Drifting
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From: Torrance Calif
Been dumb and still survived in spite of it all.
My friends refer to them as "I'll show me's!"
The worst you can do is video the thing and then die in the video (I guess).
Back OT: I just throughly enjoy a Vette (always wanted one) that I can floor (pretty much in any gear now) and "get sideways".
My friends refer to them as "I'll show me's!"
The worst you can do is video the thing and then die in the video (I guess).
Back OT: I just throughly enjoy a Vette (always wanted one) that I can floor (pretty much in any gear now) and "get sideways".
Melting Slicks
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Well I have pulled enough bodies out of mangled cars to know that changing lanes while in the middle of an intersection and deep in the throttle isn't smart at all.
I am torn however as to whom I am more concerned about... The unsuspecting bystanders or the guys poor motor.... BABABABA
I am torn however as to whom I am more concerned about... The unsuspecting bystanders or the guys poor motor.... BABABABA
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Melting Slicks
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I think I over reacted a little about the video. I had just got finished reading a thread about a local kid who killed an older man in a head on collision and was killed himself. The circumstances of the accident are still under investigation but its clear that wreckless driving was the culprit.
I wouldn't call the video's reckless driving, but based on those video's I really don't see how your in dire need of R Tires.
Seriously, your back road Corvette "love-train" is hardly what I call something that would press a F1 Supercar tire past it's limits. And yes, I heard the rev-limiter every gear on the freeway onramp too.
Seriously, your back road Corvette "love-train" is hardly what I call something that would press a F1 Supercar tire past it's limits. And yes, I heard the rev-limiter every gear on the freeway onramp too.
Reason I called BS.
I went through 2 sets of Supercars and 3 sets of front Z06 pads getting the feel for road courses before moving on to to r-comps and race pads. The Supercars are not as fast as Nitto R2s on track (i've driven both on track and timed them). I've run through a set of Nitto R2s down to the cords. The Supercars can hold almost as much lateral grip and loose out on hole shots. Standing on 1st gear isn't required on track.
So the comment about not needing Supercars if you are a serious driver is pretty ignorant from my perspective.
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From: Allentown PA & Elk Twp NJ HPDE Addict
Melting Slicks
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The moral police?
Like I really care about peoples negative comments on how I drive on the street?
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Le Mans Master
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From: Greater Detroit Metro MI, when I'm not travelling.
Melting Slicks
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I run PS2's also and think they are a fantastic tire. Cold they do decent, at street temps is where they are very grabby and predicdable - but if you push on them hard for extended periods of time (lapping days) they get very greasy and hard to keep adhered. They also do fantastic at auto-x events since it's very close to street temps...
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Le Mans Master
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sizes aren't offered in the PS2 that are wider than stock and at the same time will keep the stock geometry from front to back. people like to run 305's in the back but they are actually shorter than the stock tire and yeild very little additional traction over a 295. unless you are putting down well over 400RWHP the stock sizes will be more than adequate...
I run PS2's also and think they are a fantastic tire. Cold they do decent, at street temps is where they are very grabby and predicdable - but if you push on them hard for extended periods of time (lapping days) they get very greasy and hard to keep adhered. They also do fantastic at auto-x events since it's very close to street temps...
I run PS2's also and think they are a fantastic tire. Cold they do decent, at street temps is where they are very grabby and predicdable - but if you push on them hard for extended periods of time (lapping days) they get very greasy and hard to keep adhered. They also do fantastic at auto-x events since it's very close to street temps...
What about a 275 up front? The overall diameter of our factory 265 40 17 F1SCs is 25.4". A 265 PS2 will be 0.1" shorter (25.4"), but the 275 40 17 works out to 25.6, putting a 10.9" footprint on the ground, 0.2" wider than the factory tire while only being off by 1.2% revs/mile.
It should stick more, but it will also want to tramline more and I wonder if the car needs more front traction when my real problem here is losing the back end every time I'm on the gas...
Interestingly enough a 295 width PS2 is already 0.2" wider than the factory tire. Going with a 315 width would make the tire 0.6" shorter. So you say that is too short?
Also, are the PS2s stickier than the factory F1SC tires?
Thanks for the help!
Melting Slicks
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What about a 275 up front? The overall diameter of our factory 265 40 17 F1SCs is 25.4". A 265 PS2 will be 0.1" shorter (25.4"), but the 275 40 17 works out to 25.6, putting a 10.9" footprint on the ground, 0.2" wider than the factory tire while only being off by 1.2% revs/mile.
It should stick more, but it will also want to tramline more and I wonder if the car needs more front traction when my real problem here is losing the back end every time I'm on the gas...
It should stick more, but it will also want to tramline more and I wonder if the car needs more front traction when my real problem here is losing the back end every time I'm on the gas...
Interestingly enough a 295 width PS2 is already 0.2" wider than the factory tire. Going with a 315 width would make the tire 0.6" shorter. So you say that is too short?
Also, are the PS2s stickier than the factory F1SC tires?
Thanks for the help!
Also, are the PS2s stickier than the factory F1SC tires?
Thanks for the help!
PS2 cs F1SC is kind of like vararam vs honker or ford vs chevy - thousands of opinions out there. I think the PS2 has a smoother tread design with less blocks, and will yeild better traction in dry conditions - but that's just my opinion from looking at the tire design. I've never run F1SC bu thave taken two full sets of PS2's from brand new to chords - and enjoyed every minute of it!
Le Mans Master
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From: Bahston Mass.
When I first got my 02 Z06, I couldn't believe it would break the tires loose on a 50 degree night stomping the throttle at 50MPH, but it did.. I took the Goodyears off and got a serious gain in traction..
I've been running my PS2's all summer and have been VERY pleased with the traction they provide.
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Le Mans Master
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OK, so I guess I'll go with the PS2 tires in stock width then. But what about the fronts; should I go 265 or 275? Will the car become an oversteering machine with the 275s up front?
Burning Brakes
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Just got some Goodyear GS-D3's for the Benz CLK500, and noticed they are made in CHINA, very disappointed to see that, I bought Goodyears to support an "American company".
I understand that the cheaper lower end line of tires and everything else is now made in China, but I did not expect a nearly $200 a pop tires to be made there.....
Are Michelin PS2 made in US ? ( I know French company)
I understand that the cheaper lower end line of tires and everything else is now made in China, but I did not expect a nearly $200 a pop tires to be made there.....
Are Michelin PS2 made in US ? ( I know French company)
