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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Working on my car the other day i noticed that underneath the throttle body on my 89 L98 Vette, there is a port that sticks out. I am assuming its some type of vacuum port... well there was nothing attached to it, it was just open. Anyone know what it does or where its supposed to plug into?

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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On my 85 that runs from the vacuum port on the FPR to the TB down to the charcoal can I believe... trying to remember off the top of my head. I have a rubber tee the plugs into the TB in between.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Dan:

Does this open port point toward the radiator? If so......it is a coolant nipple and someone had done a throttle body bypass on your car. Consider yourself lucky if this is the case!

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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If it's small and pointing straight down, it goes to the EGR switch via a "U" shaped hard vacuum line. To know for sure, start the car and put your finger over the port and check for vacuum.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 86PACER
If it's small and pointing straight down, it goes to the EGR switch via a "U" shaped hard vacuum line. To know for sure, start the car and put your finger over the port and check for vacuum.
Yea, I wanted to do that but their hasn't been anyone around to help me. Its a 6 speed and any chance she gets to roll away she tries....

Would this at all effect the idle... just wondering?

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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Yes, vacuum leaks can affect idle.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 86PACER
Yes, vacuum leaks can affect idle.
Let me rephrase that question... I know that vacuum leaks can effect idle. I thought there was a possiblity that it might be some sort of vacuum port so I pluged it for the time being. I have been trying to trace down for the past couple of months, why my car jumps down to 600 RPM when I come to a stop at a stop light and then bounces up to 900RPM's finally settling down at around 800RPM... If there was a vaccuum line there at some point, there are 2 ends to it so i just wanted to know where the other end went, figuring maybe that other end was causing a problem.

If I am not making any sense (and i usually don't); right now the tube sticking out of the bottom of the throttle body is plugged. I just want to know what exactly it does and where it leads to.

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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As I said, it leads to the EGR switch that is right under the TB via a "U" shaped vacuum line. This switch gets vacuum from said port, and cuts/feeds it to the EGR valve at the appropriate times.

EGR switch is bolted next to thermostat housing below TB. That port under the TB goes to one of the two ports on the EGR switch below. The other port on the switch then feeds to the EGR valve under the plenum mounted on the center of intake base.


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Your car will never idle right with that port unplugged. Check your radiator shroud for a vacuum line diagram.

After you have everything together, recalibrate the idle. Do a search for "base idle" or "idle set" and you'll find out how.
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Originally Posted by 86PACER
As I said, it leads to the EGR switch that is right under the TB via a "U" shaped vacuum line. This switch gets vacuum from said port, and cuts/feeds it to the EGR valve at the appropriate times.

EGR switch is bolted next to thermostat housing below TB. That port under the TB goes to one of the two ports on the EGR switch below. The other port on the switch then feeds to the EGR valve under the plenum mounted on the center of intake base.


Makes sense, but I think someone must have played with the setup a little. I found it without anything attached to the throttle body. One of the vacuum lines coming off that vacuum switch runs down using an aftermarket rubber hose leading back into a hard plastic hose which runs towards the direct of the charcoal canister. The other hose connects from the switch and when I followed it that one went to the EGR. In any event, The EGR Hose leading into the intake manifold is now gone, due to the aftermarket jet coated headers. I put a block off plate on the mainfold and just left the EGR alone.

Looking at the picture you sent me, there are only two ports on that switch. If one of those lines is leading from the EGR to the switch, and the other is leading from the switch to the throttle body, then where would the line leading to the charcoal canister connect to?

I can supply pictures tomorrow if necessary,

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As CC touched on, is the vacuum diagram sticker still on your radiator shroud? It shows the canister/EGR vacuum routing right there.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Your car will never idle right with that port unplugged. Check your radiator shroud for a vacuum line diagram.

After you have everything together, recalibrate the idle. Do a search for "base idle" or "idle set" and you'll find out how.
To the rescue as usual....

Ill check it out tomorrow and let you know how it works out.
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Originally Posted by 86PACER
As CC touched on, is the vacuum diagram sticker still on your radiator shroud? It shows the canister/EGR vacuum routing right there.
You guys are quick....

Pacer 86... thanks again for the help...

Ill talk to you guys tomorrow night, I have to go get some sleep... early morning tomorrow.

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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Here. Now you ought to be able to unf@k what the guy prior to you did.


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Awesome!!!

(Save and Print....)

Among the upgrades I got with this car were, the taped in K&N air filter, the air foil mod, a clifford remote window roll down unit (that wasn't working) and lets not forget the microphones taped all over the car.

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I will take a closer look tomorrow afternoon but just by looking at the diagram I can see the T fitting that is missing.

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Originally Posted by Danspeed1
To the rescue as usual....

Ill check it out tomorrow and let you know how it works out.
Who me? Others on here will tell you I'm just some know-it-all asshat that likes to argue and belittle people.

Er.. I mean to say, you're welcome! On my 85 the tee is made of rubber and the EGR hard plastic line goes to it, on the otherside is a short hard line that goes to a barbed connection, on there goes a hose to the vapor canister.

I think the parts stores only have hard plastic vacuum tees. So get that and some vacuum tubing. Would be a good time to replace them all if you haven't already.
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Napa carries sections of hard vacuum line, much like the factory stuff that by now can be brittle. You can heat them and bend them to the desired shape with a lighter.
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I suddenly got this mental picture of you making vacuum-line animals and impressing kids at the local street fair.
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It's probably the !TB coolant bypass
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