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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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Documentation being so important, did Chevrolet not keep records of the vehicle builds? The tank sticker for example....there must have been a copy filed at the factory after a vehicle was produced. Was there a fire and they were all destroyed? I'm sure this has been asked before, but if anyone knows the back story, please share.
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There will eventually be more detailed responses, but my understanding is that a fire destroyed nearly all of the Corvette records from the St. Louis factory. Records are available beginning with the cars first produced in Bowling Green. Also GM of Canada can provide extensive records searches for all Canadian sold vehicles.
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Originally Posted by bellaireroad
Been wondering....
Documentation being so important, did Chevrolet not keep records of the vehicle builds? The tank sticker for example....there must have been a copy filed at the factory after a vehicle was produced. Was there a fire and they were all destroyed? I'm sure this has been asked before, but if anyone knows the back story, please share.
You ask about Chevrolet on a Corvette Forum so not clear if you're asking about the brand or the marquee Corvette. But here's a link to the GM Heritage Center that describes all brands and available documentation.

GM Heritage Center
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Hi belaire,
I think it's interesting to consider how HAPPY the vast majority of owners would be with the information and how UNHAPPY the few owners of fake cars would be.
Maybe at this point it's better that no info becomes available?!?
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Originally Posted by Brcmpbl
...my understanding is that a fire destroyed nearly all of the Corvette records from the St. Louis factory...
Corvette Myth: there was never a fire.

...Records are available beginning with the cars first produced in Bowling Green...
True, but even that amounts to a minor miracle. The Bowling Green build information was supposed to have been destroyed by plant personel. GM allowed the plant manager to donate the information to the National Corvette Museum.

For 77-81 St. Louis Corvettes, GM contracted with the Allied-Vaughn company to put copies of dealer invoices on microfiche. This information is available through the Heritage Center.

GM says the 68-76 build information records were destroyed.

Belleaire: at the time C3s were produced, factory documentation was meaningless. These days, it's priceless.

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Alan makes a valuale point.
What do you mean my car is not a 435 hp BB
I paid 80 grand for it
Yeah leave a sleeping dog lye
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
Corvette Myth: there was never a fire.

Yet another myth that won't go away.
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Must be a Govt conspiracy.
Marine Corps used the same Fire excuse for personnel records retained at St Louis, MO from the 70's.
Allot of fires back than in St Louis?
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi belaire,
I think it's interesting to consider how HAPPY the vast majority of owners would be with the information and how UNHAPPY the few owners of fake cars would be.
Maybe at this point it's better that no info becomes available?!?
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LOL....you are probably right!!!
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
Corvette Myth: there was never a fire.



True, but even that amounts to a minor miracle. The Bowling Green build information was supposed to have been destroyed by plant personel. GM allowed the plant manager to donate the information to the National Corvette Museum.

For 77-81 St. Louis Corvettes, GM contracted with the Allied-Vaughn company to put copies of dealer invoices on microfiche. This information is available through the Heritage Center.

GM says the 68-76 build information records were destroyed.

Belleaire: at the time C3s were produced, factory documentation was meaningless. These days, it's priceless.

I think it is a GM conspiracy
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Originally Posted by bellaireroad
...I think it is a GM conspiracy...
If it is a conspiracy, it's a good one.

The point being, if someone purchases a car with no factory documentation, it could be extremely difficult to find/replace the information. If documentation is important, make sure it is with the car at time of purchase.

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Originally Posted by marshal135
Must be a Govt conspiracy.
Marine Corps used the same Fire excuse for personnel records retained at St Louis, MO from the 70's.
Allot of fires back than in St Louis?
Marshal
Yeah I got the same story but funny thing is they sent me my 201 and medical records but then they were incomplete
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Gallagher
That myth will never go away if the National Corvette Museum is making the claim on their website:

https://store.corvettemuseum.com/ser...buildsheet.asp

The records were long gone by the time of the start of production in BG. Why would GM keep hard copy records for cars they had built years or decades earlier? The NCM was reminded of this many times but can't be bothered correcting their website.
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Yes, I read about the "fire" on the NCM site while searching for availability of records for my cars.

Maybe aliens beamed them up to outer space to build Astrovettes?

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Aliens beaming them UP is about as likely as GM keeping them 'secret' for many years, at no benefit to themselves. If they were available, GM would have been SELLING that information, just like selling everything they have, so the execs can bump-up their bonuses.

That includes selling-OUT their retirees and all their manufacturing capabilities to overseas sources.
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