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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/ju...ter-with-fate/


Really makes you wonder.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by STREETKNIGHT
Just after I read this thread, my neighbor (also a LEO) told me he anad a friend were renting a couple of Harleys and doing the Dragon.

He rented a dresser and heads out tonight or tomorrow morning. Told him about the thread and just "be careful."
The Harley guys are Its the punks on the crotch rockets that are the problem.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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The Harley guys are Its the punks on the crotch rockets that are the problem.
Not true Chris. Sometimes the Harley guys ride too slow. The bikes don't handle as well as sport bikes and they are MUCH more likely to cross the center lines. I have ridden the dragon on my motorcycle for years and can tell you that one of the biggest problems is riders that go there that don't have enough experience riding and they end up overestimating their abilities.

The bike wrecks last week were: 1. A couple on a 3 wheeler that crossed the center line and hit a truck. This was NOT a crotch rocket. It was a cruiser made into an even poorer handling bike. I can't speak for the experience level of the rider. 2. A rider that braked incorrectly and went over the side. (Also on a cruiser.....I'm not sure if it was a Harley or not.)

I agree that there are some that do stupid things like the guys we saw Saturday riding between cars around the curves. But I do NOT agree that the Harley guys are and the crotch rockets are all of the problem.

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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by possessed
Plenty of idiots up there, driving an assortment of vehicles. Thankfully, all my friends and I made it back in one piece. No damage to anybody or any Corvettes. The worst thing was a written speeding warning.

I saw two seperate Harley wrecks Saturday, but neither on the Dragon. I hope everyone was okay.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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NO. Then they would have died in there Vettes. Because, when it's your time. It's your time no matter what you are drivivg.
If this is true, I'm going to smoke 3 packs of cigarettes a day, stay stupid drunk and drive my Vette full throttle all the time. After all, if I kill myself or anyone else, it was just our time.....

I've never been able to comprehend such a point of view. If everything is predestined, then what's the point of life or anything?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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...If everything is predestined, then what's the point of life or anything?

IDK? Maybe to just hang on and see what happens next?
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Brown78
NO. Then they would have died in there Vettes. Because, when it's your time. It's your time no matter what you are drivivg.
Not true -- FATE IS THE WEIGHT OF CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Jamie Slick
Not true Chris. Sometimes the Harley guys ride too slow. The bikes don't handle as well as sport bikes and they are MUCH more likely to cross the center lines. I have ridden the dragon on my motorcycle for years and can tell you that one of the biggest problems is riders that go there that don't have enough experience riding and they end up overestimating their abilities.


Although I agree with you on the experience factor, the size of the bike and speed is not a factor (as to slow speed).

Handling is not adversely effected by slower speed and thats no reason for a perso to cross the center line. Even at a dead stop, I can lay a fulldresssed Harley or Goldwing on it's side and move it around with little trouble. It's all about head/eye/brake/clutch and throttle control


The bike wrecks last week were: 1. A couple on a 3 wheeler that crossed the center line and hit a truck. This was NOT a crotch rocket. It was a cruiser made into an even poorer handling bike. I can't speak for the experience level of the rider. 2. A rider that braked incorrectly and went over the side. (Also on a cruiser.....I'm not sure if it was a Harley or not.)

Again, both of these issues have more to do with experience and skill, maybe even attentiveness than speed. The design of the trike does however make it less manueverable.

I agree that there are some that do stupid things like the guys we saw Saturday riding between cars around the curves. But I do NOT agree that the Harley guys are and the crotch rockets are all of the problem.
I agree but the majority of the foolish sheet I see done in traffic on motorcycles is done by crotch rocket riders who seem to think thier skill level is greater than it is.

Even the ones with training seem to forget the traffic and environmental factors that they can not control

Just don't see that as often out of Harley riders.

Any stats say for the last 2-3 years regrading bike crashes on the dragon and the types of scooters involved?
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Originally Posted by STREETKNIGHT
Any stats say for the last 2-3 years regrading bike crashes on the dragon and the types of scooters involved?
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IIRC there have been 9 deaths on the dragon prior to the last 3 in the last 5 years or so, all out of towners. No idea of bike types.
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Originally Posted by Loco Vette
IIRC there have been 9 deaths on the dragon prior to the last 3 in the last 5 years or so, all out of towners. No idea of bike types.
That makes even more sense. Unless you try to familiarize yourself with your intended route, talk to peeps that have done it and such, you'll more than likely over ride your capabilities

Thus the out of towners....
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