Mershons Purchase
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Anything else is just salt in the wounds. In the mean time SBC go fast parts is a common thing set realistic goals based on your driving style Good luck.
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Not saying who s at fault here but I learned a long time ago there are three sides to every story. Your, theirs and somewhere in between lies the truth. The bottom line is you or a professional should have inspected the car before you pulled the trigger. If it ran that bad and didn’t stop well you would have known that on a test drive.
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I wouldnt let them fix anything they fd you once. Does it have the solid lifter cam?
Tell them to throw you a grand and put them towards some aftermarket double humps.
They knew damn well those were crap heads. I dont know how dealers get so much $ for headaches...let us know the resolution
Id get a lawyer if I had to and unwind the sale talk about a disappointment.
Tell them to throw you a grand and put them towards some aftermarket double humps.
They knew damn well those were crap heads. I dont know how dealers get so much $ for headaches...let us know the resolution
Id get a lawyer if I had to and unwind the sale talk about a disappointment.
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Did you drive it after fixing the dragging brakes? I would imagine that the performance improved without the brakes dragging.
Personally, I'd take them up on the replacement heads. It wouldn't seem to hurt. And, if you don't want them working on the car, maybe you could just ask them to give you the new heads in a box.
Personally, I'd take them up on the replacement heads. It wouldn't seem to hurt. And, if you don't want them working on the car, maybe you could just ask them to give you the new heads in a box.
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the dealer and you keep calling this car a 327/340. what is on the stamp pad that identify it as such. or are both of you just using a three dollar sticker to tell you?
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is there anything on the stamp pad. that is the part of the block on the front passenger side that sticks out past the head
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The whole episode is most unfortunate. That being said, I bought my car from Mershons in 2016 and had an excellent experience despite buying the car remotely. I did ensure I had a prepurchase inspection conducted prior to settling on a price. Paying Poncho the $300 to go out and inspect the car was the best money I ever spent. Mershons was extremely accommodating of Poncho's inspection and test drive of the car.
I guess my point is, ANY used car dealership is just that, a used car dealership. Treat them accordingly and do your research.
I guess my point is, ANY used car dealership is just that, a used car dealership. Treat them accordingly and do your research.
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The whole episode is most unfortunate. That being said, I bought my car from Mershons in 2016 and had an excellent experience despite buying the car remotely. I did ensure I had a prepurchase inspection conducted prior to settling on a price. Paying Poncho the $300 to go out and inspect the car was the best money I ever spent. Mershons was extremely accommodating of Poncho's inspection and test drive of the car.
I guess my point is, ANY used car dealership is just that, a used car dealership. Treat them accordingly and do your research.
I guess my point is, ANY used car dealership is just that, a used car dealership. Treat them accordingly and do your research.
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Even though you did not disclose until now who the dealer was it was obvious IMCO to many who frequent this forum.
Provette67....Pancho goes there often. I'm sure if he did a PPI there would have been no surprises.
According to the dealer they have the utmost respect for him and his knowledge.
Money spent but disaster averted.
Hopefully the surprises are over and you get everything fixed with a minimum cash outlay.
Good luck going forward.
Provette67....Pancho goes there often. I'm sure if he did a PPI there would have been no surprises.
According to the dealer they have the utmost respect for him and his knowledge.
Money spent but disaster averted.
Hopefully the surprises are over and you get everything fixed with a minimum cash outlay.
Good luck going forward.
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The whole episode is most unfortunate. That being said, I bought my car from Mershons in 2016 and had an excellent experience despite buying the car remotely. I did ensure I had a prepurchase inspection conducted prior to settling on a price. Paying Poncho the $300 to go out and inspect the car was the best money I ever spent. Mershons was extremely accommodating of Poncho's inspection and test drive of the car.
I guess my point is, ANY used car dealership is just that, a used car dealership. Treat them accordingly and do your research.
I guess my point is, ANY used car dealership is just that, a used car dealership. Treat them accordingly and do your research.
I am very sorry for your problems...... Good Luck!
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Burning Brakes
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It says in the ad it's a "327 340 HP" which it most definitely is not. I think they owe you the correct motor that you thought you were getting.
The good news is if the body, paint and interior are satisfactory then changing a motor is easier than doing any of the those.
I'm sorry you are having to deal with the disappointment of not getting what you paid for. Hopefully it will work out to your satisfaction. Good luck!
The good news is if the body, paint and interior are satisfactory then changing a motor is easier than doing any of the those.
I'm sorry you are having to deal with the disappointment of not getting what you paid for. Hopefully it will work out to your satisfaction. Good luck!
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What you decide to do going forward and how the dealer decides to respond will have a impact. If positive they have the opportunity to benefit from all of this.
On the other hand there's always the alternative which if negative certainly would blemish their reputation.
On the other hand there's always the alternative which if negative certainly would blemish their reputation.
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Well now that I know what this car is and what it isn’t I have some thinking to do. Mershon’s solution to slap double hump heads on it is truly ridiculous. Them calling this car a 327/340 horse car is ridiculous, it’s a 250 horse Impala motor with smog heads on it, stuck brakes and a 4 barrel carb that needs a rebuild.
On the plus side, now you can modify the hell out of it without the boo-birds coming out of the wood work criticizing you for doing what you want with your car. The misrepresentation of the engine package is very frustrating however....you would think a place that deals primarily in Corvettes would at least take the time to run the numbers on the motor.
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When I bought my '60 from an estate there were some things I knew about (wrong engine for instance) but it was supposed to be 'roadworthy' to drive back home. First off they said the front end was OK. I was suspicious because, in my limited experience, I never saw a used C1 that didn't need front end work (which it did). The biggest issue was the brakes would hardly stop the car (all hoses needed to be replaced). I re-negotiated the price to have it trailered across country to home. The one big thing I missed (and it was stupid because it was obvious) was that the whole rear end/axle was wrong for the car; out of a '50s pickup I think. That cost me $2k to replace. The other was that the engine was damaged from excessive timing. In the end I was in it for almost $4k extra for things not detected. There was also a mountain of little things that had to be repaired/undone from 55 years of being exposed to "Bubba" repairs. But like you it was the car of my dreams so you're not alone
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A lot of passion, I realize that, so us guys not involved with less passion, are just trying to input/help ya…… engine correction relatively ease (and as I think I said, you’ll end up with a fresh “quality” engine …..better than if a flipper thru a cheap set of bearings/rings/gaskets in it). If you get some $ back, (and you have a good case), it may be a blessing….. and you’ll probably end up with a blank pad after a light deck cut
make lemonade out of the lemon motor…. A lot of the top end/trim parts look correct, a real plus. A set of 1.94 GM double hump head won’t be hard to find….
make lemonade out of the lemon motor…. A lot of the top end/trim parts look correct, a real plus. A set of 1.94 GM double hump head won’t be hard to find….
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