1448.54 rwhp - then EXPLOSION!!
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Drifting
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1448.54 rwhp - then EXPLOSION!!
I'm always here to post all of the good news about how much power my cars make. Well, it has finally come to an end. The 632 in my '67 Corvette coupe blew up big time.
I had Jeff Prock at Applied Nitrous come up with 5 new tune-ups on my double cross plate system. The last time I made some nitrous runs was in June of 2007. The car made 1374 rwhp on the highest nitrous settings. These new tune-ups start up where the old ones left off. Naturally, I started with the lowest settings and that is what produced the 1448 rwhp.
After that 1448.54 rwhp run I decided to go up two steps and the instant the nitrous was engaged at 3500 rpm I heard what sounded like two sonic booms and the motor immediately stopped running. I new I was in trouble.
The following pics give you some idea of the damage. The culprit is one of the Carrillo rods - it snapped in half! I am guessing that it happened out of fatigue. I installed this motor in May of 2003 and have driven numerous street miles plus over 210 DynoJet chassis dyno runs.
The aluminum block is pretty chewed up and I am not sure if I will try to get it repaired or not. The Sonny Bryant crank looks good as do 6 pistons and rods. #4 rod is the one that broke and #3 got some collateral damage. I haven't looked closely at the cam but the key that indexes the cam portion of the Jesel belt drive sheared off. I also haven't had time to look closely at the Big Chief heads but there is definitely one bent titanium intake valve.
Oh well, time to figure out what direction I am going to go in repairing this mess...
Steve
I had Jeff Prock at Applied Nitrous come up with 5 new tune-ups on my double cross plate system. The last time I made some nitrous runs was in June of 2007. The car made 1374 rwhp on the highest nitrous settings. These new tune-ups start up where the old ones left off. Naturally, I started with the lowest settings and that is what produced the 1448 rwhp.
After that 1448.54 rwhp run I decided to go up two steps and the instant the nitrous was engaged at 3500 rpm I heard what sounded like two sonic booms and the motor immediately stopped running. I new I was in trouble.
The following pics give you some idea of the damage. The culprit is one of the Carrillo rods - it snapped in half! I am guessing that it happened out of fatigue. I installed this motor in May of 2003 and have driven numerous street miles plus over 210 DynoJet chassis dyno runs.
The aluminum block is pretty chewed up and I am not sure if I will try to get it repaired or not. The Sonny Bryant crank looks good as do 6 pistons and rods. #4 rod is the one that broke and #3 got some collateral damage. I haven't looked closely at the cam but the key that indexes the cam portion of the Jesel belt drive sheared off. I also haven't had time to look closely at the Big Chief heads but there is definitely one bent titanium intake valve.
Oh well, time to figure out what direction I am going to go in repairing this mess...
Steve
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Very sad day
Boy's and their toy's. Each of us have different crying levels. Does yours start about $$ 30 grand?
Boy's and their toy's. Each of us have different crying levels. Does yours start about $$ 30 grand?
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Bummer, Steve. That's bad news. I always enjoy reading your latest exploits on the dyno but that's too bad. That is truly some wicked damage. I wonder what the cycle life is on those rods at the piston weight you are running. You're not spinning it like a pro-stock but I bet the forces are greater on your engine combination.
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Oh my!!!!
Not sure any amount of words will do my thoughts justice. Sorry to hear it, Steve.
I'm sure you'll have fun building a new bigger and better one though. Any idea yet what direction you want to take it? Replacement, more 'street' power, exotic, etc?
Not sure any amount of words will do my thoughts justice. Sorry to hear it, Steve.
I'm sure you'll have fun building a new bigger and better one though. Any idea yet what direction you want to take it? Replacement, more 'street' power, exotic, etc?
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Hi Steve,
We haven't spoken for a while. I'm the NCRS type guy who is in awe of what you build.
I don't know enough to say anything intelligent! Has anyone ever said even the broken pieces are beautiful when you realize what it took to break them?
Incredible pictures!!!!
Regards,
Alan
We haven't spoken for a while. I'm the NCRS type guy who is in awe of what you build.
I don't know enough to say anything intelligent! Has anyone ever said even the broken pieces are beautiful when you realize what it took to break them?
Incredible pictures!!!!
Regards,
Alan
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Drifting
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Originally Posted by burners
Bummer, Steve. That's bad news. I always enjoy reading your latest exploits on the dyno but that's too bad. That is truly some wicked damage. I wonder what the cycle life is on those rods at the piston weight you are running. You're not spinning it like a pro-stock but I bet the forces are greater on your engine combination.
Originally Posted by tshort
Oh my!!!!
Not sure any amount of words will do my thoughts justice. Sorry to hear it, Steve.
I'm sure you'll have fun building a new bigger and better one though. Any idea yet what direction you want to take it? Replacement, more 'street' power, exotic, etc?
Not sure any amount of words will do my thoughts justice. Sorry to hear it, Steve.
I'm sure you'll have fun building a new bigger and better one though. Any idea yet what direction you want to take it? Replacement, more 'street' power, exotic, etc?
Originally Posted by zwede
Very sorry to hear/see that. But we all know you'll come back bigger & stronger than ever!
Steve
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Drifting
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Hi Steve,
We haven't spoken for a while. I'm the NCRS type guy who is in awe of what you build.
I don't know enough to say anything intelligent! Has anyone ever said even the broken pieces are beautiful when you realize what it took to break them?
Incredible pictures!!!!
Regards,
Alan
We haven't spoken for a while. I'm the NCRS type guy who is in awe of what you build.
I don't know enough to say anything intelligent! Has anyone ever said even the broken pieces are beautiful when you realize what it took to break them?
Incredible pictures!!!!
Regards,
Alan
Steve
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Race Director
Maybe it's time to look into exotic stuff? Try to match the 632 power with a twin-turbo small-block? Or maybe the new LSx engines? You haven't played around with EFI yet, right?
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Team Owner
Nearly 1500hp out of 632 cubes is a bunch! I don't know what those rods are rated to withstand, but apparently not that much. I wish you the best on your salvage and repair work.
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Race Director
I always enjoy your posts and the numbers you put up are amazing. Don't really enjoy this one but you kept pushing it to see what it could do. Well I think you found it. That is a shame but I'm sure you will come back with something impressive.
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Drifting
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Originally Posted by GDaina
yeowzzzaaaa, what a mess, but the block looks repairable, might be cheaper than a the price of a new one. Prolly a new set of rods and sell the surviving ones?
Originally Posted by zwede
Yeah, you have to watch it with Jim. You listen to the guy a just a little while and all of a sudden you find you built a pro-stocker. "nah, it'll run just fine on 13:1 compression. Just needs a little more cam to bleed it off."
Maybe it's time to look into exotic stuff? Try to match the 632 power with a twin-turbo small-block? Or maybe the new LSx engines? You haven't played around with EFI yet, right?
Maybe it's time to look into exotic stuff? Try to match the 632 power with a twin-turbo small-block? Or maybe the new LSx engines? You haven't played around with EFI yet, right?
Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Nearly 1500hp out of 632 cubes is a bunch! I don't know what those rods are rated to withstand, but apparently not that much. I wish you the best on your salvage and repair work.
Originally Posted by Gordonm
I always enjoy your posts and the numbers you put up are amazing. Don't really enjoy this one but you kept pushing it to see what it could do. Well I think you found it. That is a shame but I'm sure you will come back with something impressive.
Steve
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You can build it as strong as possible and it will still have a breaking point. Finding yours @ over 1777 flywheel HP shows how well built this beast really was. Carrillo rods are the best. Don't think you got anything available stronger. Sorry for your loss as it is our loss also. Always enjoy your posts and looking forward to the new build. I would go with a complete new short block
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Drifting
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Thanks Markus! Now if I can just get some sponsor money...
I appreciate the kind words.
BTW, I have made all of these nitrous runs with the Autogear M-22. It is still together and working like a champ. I called George @ Autogear and he appreciated hearing about the numbers and the fact that the trans is still together. He said that those numbers are way outside their design criteria.
Steve
Originally Posted by 63mako
You can build it as strong as possible and it will still have a breaking point. Finding yours @ over 1777 flywheel HP shows how well built this beast really was. Carrillo rods are the best. Don't think you got anything available stronger. Sorry for your loss as it is our loss also. Always enjoy your posts and looking forward to the new build. I would go with a complete new short block
BTW, I have made all of these nitrous runs with the Autogear M-22. It is still together and working like a champ. I called George @ Autogear and he appreciated hearing about the numbers and the fact that the trans is still together. He said that those numbers are way outside their design criteria.
Steve
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Steve,
I am very sorry for the carnage, but in the famous words of Jim Moorepower: "What you need to do is...."
http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/sar932.html
You should look at this as a SOFU (Significant Opportunity For Upgrade).
Add some twin turbos to the 932 above, some fuel injection and see how far you can go on pump gas with the hair dryers. Should keep you busy for a while trying different cams. You could even tune for E85 for the killer runs. Speaking of dyno runs, you do know that there is a chassis dyno competition in one of the Popular Hot Car magazines? The current champ is above 1700 RWHP. I don't think there are any limitations on C.I.s. You should be able to walk away with the title next year no problem.
Why? Because you gotta have goals.
I am very sorry for the carnage, but in the famous words of Jim Moorepower: "What you need to do is...."
http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/sar932.html
You should look at this as a SOFU (Significant Opportunity For Upgrade).
Add some twin turbos to the 932 above, some fuel injection and see how far you can go on pump gas with the hair dryers. Should keep you busy for a while trying different cams. You could even tune for E85 for the killer runs. Speaking of dyno runs, you do know that there is a chassis dyno competition in one of the Popular Hot Car magazines? The current champ is above 1700 RWHP. I don't think there are any limitations on C.I.s. You should be able to walk away with the title next year no problem.
Why? Because you gotta have goals.
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Drifting
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Steve,
I am very sorry for the carnage, but in the famous words of Jim Moorepower: "What you need to do is...."
http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/sar932.html
You should look at this as a SOFU (Significant Opportunity For Upgrade).
Add some twin turbos to the 932 above, some fuel injection and see how far you can go on pump gas with the hair dryers. Should keep you busy for a while trying different cams. You could even tune for E85 for the killer runs. Speaking of dyno runs, you do know that there is a chassis dyno competition in one of the Popular Hot Car magazines? The current champ is above 1700 RWHP. I don't think there are any limitations on C.I.s. You should be able to walk away with the title next year no problem.
Why? Because you gotta have goals.
I am very sorry for the carnage, but in the famous words of Jim Moorepower: "What you need to do is...."
http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/sar932.html
You should look at this as a SOFU (Significant Opportunity For Upgrade).
Add some twin turbos to the 932 above, some fuel injection and see how far you can go on pump gas with the hair dryers. Should keep you busy for a while trying different cams. You could even tune for E85 for the killer runs. Speaking of dyno runs, you do know that there is a chassis dyno competition in one of the Popular Hot Car magazines? The current champ is above 1700 RWHP. I don't think there are any limitations on C.I.s. You should be able to walk away with the title next year no problem.
Why? Because you gotta have goals.
As far as the chassis dyno competition, heck that's for dyno queens only. That leaves me out.
Steve
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Race Director
BTW, I have made all of these nitrous runs with the Autogear M-22. It is still together and working like a champ. I called George @ Autogear and he appreciated hearing about the numbers and the fact that the trans is still together. He said that those numbers are way outside their design criteria.
Steve
Steve