sloth

All you people who think the Valentine is all that, go to: radartest.com
You will be suprised, how not well the Val-1 did.

Jeffvette

And once again, who did the testing........It's nothing new. I've tried others and V1 is still the best. It saved my butt three times today making the trek from Seattle to Portland. 2Laser hits and one ka
http://www.valentine1.com/lab/V1Hater.asp

:smash:
Craig Peterson

2000RagTop

Ah yes!!......... "Radar Wars Continue"
http://www.speedzones.com/.

LoneStarFRC

Directional info. is key for me.

Das Vett

The Valentine saved me yesterday. Was cruising the "greenway" on the way to work when I got first one, then two bogies on the bogie counter. After the first one passed, the detector showed one ahead, and one behind. Sure enough, there was a second Florida Highway Patrol about a quarter mile behind the first one. Without the bogie counter and directional indicator, I would have been toast.

Thanks Valentine One :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:

R23HTC

I saw the Speedzone test also. Already knew the fix was in on the radartest.com test. The Speedzone test shows one thing. Anyone can set there distance counters to read 6 out of 8 or 8 out of 8 at long range. WHY? would you want THAT? You want your distance counter to be just that, to show you how much closer you are getting. With some of those picking 8 out of 8 at more than X miles away, you'd have a constant full signal all the time, thinking the radar was like a few hundred feet when it was over a mile. This defeats the purpose of having it in the first place. I don't want 8 out of 8 till I'm within site of it. 8 out of 8 at 2 miles is rediculous.

jfb

And the reason is because that site is owned by Craig Peterson who offers himself as a consultant to radar mfgs and if they decline like Valentine Research has done, then he gives poor test results. See http://www.valentine1.com
and read about it . Same deal only different person at radarzone.com .

GUMPA

Check out my record at the Wisc. MVD :yesnod:

or take a ride with me, I'll show you how the V1 works

Tom73

To me it appears that the Valentine 1, Escort 8500, and Bel 980 are the top three detectors. No real differences in performance that I can see (other then the extra $100 that Valentine gets for theirs). So I am getting ready to order an Escort 8500 based on my satisfaction with my previous Escort detector.

I was ready to go with the Valentine 1 until I read the test at http://www.radartest.com which changed my mind. The Valentine site does dispute the validity of the test and the methods. But Valentine did not offer any other test results for comparison or any comparative numbers. Based on that I assume that there are no other tests out there to dispute the radartest.com results.

What are your thoughts on this and do you know of any other tests that dispute the radartest.com results?

tom...


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sloth

Hey, who ownes the V-1 site? hmm? mike Valentine well isn't that special


[Modified by sloth, 11:35 AM 9/3/2001]

2thDr

That is true, but if you'll take the time to read his information on HOW A RADAR TEST SHOULD BE DONE FAIRLY, you'll see that it makes perfect sense. If you follow his advice, you'll see that running a radar test the way he suggests will not unfairly favor ANY radar detector.

Tom73

I agree, but they only talk about how to test a detector. They do not give any numbers or offer anyother test sites. By not speaking up they are saying that they cannot dispute the numbers and since they cannot dispute the numbers, the numbers must be correct.

tom...

2thDr

That is not great logic. Suppose he doesn't want to get into petty arguments with these testers? Besides, he has already refuted those tests once, why do it again and again?

Anywho, Car and Driver will be testing the new detectors soon and they usually get it right.

Tom73

If someone is putting out false info you call then on it and offer proof of why that are wrong. If you do nothing then everyone assumes they are correct. That is good logic.

tom...

2thDr

You didn't understand my point here either. You originally said "By not speaking up they are saying that they cannot dispute the numbers and since they cannot dispute the numbers, the numbers must be correct."

By this logic, all tests that show the V1 to be #1 must be correct too, since Mike Valentine hasn't said anything about those #'s either. (For example, he hasn't said anything about the New Zealand tests, so those results must be correct by your logic, right?)

You said "If someone is putting out false info you call then on it and offer proof of why that are wrong. If you do nothing then everyone assumes they are correct. That is good logic." Like I already said, Mike Valentine has already responded to these tests and shown why they are questionable to say the least, why do it again? He doesn't want to get into petty arguments with these biased testers. That's what they want, controversy stirs publicity for them.



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Tom73

Probably one of the best points for the V1 is how staunchly the owners of V1 defend it. It is obvious they like it.

tom...

GUMPA

We don't "like" them, we "LOVE" them, the "rest" will just get you a ticket sooner or later :yesnod: We have the "cheaper one's" in all our trucks and they don't even come close to the performance of the V1.

Mike Valetine "invented" some of the "other units" mentioned, and then started his own Co. to make the very best that could be made, he succeeded

0 tickets 18 years, 4 w/Vette :yesnod:

2thDr

By the way, the parts shortage at Valentine is now over. You can trade your old V1 in for a brand new unit for only $189! I sent mine in today. (It's really supposed to be an "upgrade" but the site says that they will just give you a new unit in trade for your old unit.)

Jay Axson

I like my V1. Knowing how many radar sources and where they are coming from is worth the $100.00 more. When I wanted to buy, I did a search on radar detectors and everyone was screaming V1, only a few cheering the other two. I listened to the forum and I am very happy with the extra information it offers. I feel like I understand every situation. You get to know your frequently used routes with such detail that you know immeadiatly when something is ary.

The whole test argument is :bs all three have about the same sensitivity, but the V1 is probably better on the rear view.

If the hundred buck is important to you, then save the money. If you want to have more confidence in your everyday driving situation go with the V1.

Either way get something soon! Most radar detectors are sold a day too late

yrdbyrd

And Your Point Is? :confused:
If you dont like V1 then don't buy it but don't think that your post of a test result we've all seen ad nauseum :sleep: is going to make us throw away our Valentines for something else. :lol: What is the story with you V1 bashers, don't you get it. We all have the same experience with V1, it ROCKS and has paid for itself many times over. Hey, buy what you want and enjoy it, We V1 owners don't keep posting to denigrate other detectors why do you? :spam
So give it a rest already we own it, we love it. :yesnod: