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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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All of a sudden my crappy Bose Subs quit working. The crappy tweeters still work so I'm completly lost on this one. Before anyone suggests it I don't want to jump ship on my Bose yet as I'm saving my cash for my headers and tune. I already have components and a amp to push them. I just don't want to spend the cash on the mounting plates for the components. I just want to have some low end for the time being. Didnt know if anyone ran into this so I figured I would ask in case. HELP!
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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All of a sudden my crappy Bose Subs quit working. The crappy tweeters still work so I'm completly lost on this one. Before anyone suggests it I don't want to jump ship on my Bose yet as I'm saving my cash for my headers and tune. I already have components and a amp to push them. I just don't want to spend the cash on the mounting plates for the components. I just want to have some low end for the time being. Didnt know if anyone ran into this so I figured I would ask in case. HELP!
The Bose subs are self-powered and the "tweeters" (sorry but I will never refer to a 3.5" speaker as a tweeter!) are driven by the Bose amp in the passenger footwell. If they both went out suddenly you may be looking at a popped fuse. Unfortunately I don't know what fuse the Bose subs are on off the top of my head or if they're even on their own circuit, but it's somewhere to start. Check the owner's manual for the fuse listing and maybe check the chart that's by the fuse boxes in the passenger footwell.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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What year is your Vette?
I know you wouldn't even ask if you had warranty, but if you do, go to a dealer to have it fixed.

You said you already have an amp and components?
A cheap 1/2" MDF board, a jigsaw, and some sand papers + 10 min is all you need to make those mounting plates.
A weekend afternoon would suffice for you to install those components into your car.
What's stopping you?

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His profile shows that he has a 2005.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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What year is your Vette?
I know you wouldn't even ask if you had warranty, but if you do, go to a dealer to have it fixed.

You said you already have an amp and components?
A cheap 1/2" MDF board, a jigsaw, and some sand papers + 10 min is all you need to make those mounting plates.
A weekend afternoon would suffice for you to install those components into your car.
What's stopping you?

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Time is stopping me lol. I work WAY to much and used to do installs, so I know the amount of time consuming work that will be involved. I'm just dragging my feet. A whole days work means that I will work 7 days that week instead of 6.

I just want them to work!!! Does anyone know what fuse is for the subs? Maybe I can call the dealer yeah right who am I kidding those guys usually don't know jack about these cars.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Both Door Woofers are powered off of the same circuit as the amp. So if the amp has power you do not have a blown fuse. The radio is on a separate circuit.

The subs also use the antenna enable signal to switch on. So if your antenna fuse was blown, the subs would not power up, but then neither would your antenna. Check if you have radio reception.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Both Door Woofers are powered off of the same circuit as the amp. So if the amp has power you do not have a blown fuse. The radio is on a separate circuit.

The subs also use the antenna enable signal to switch on. So if your antenna fuse was blown, the subs would not power up, but then neither would your antenna. Check if you have radio reception.
Radio works....I looked at every fuse and they are all good, except my CAGS fuse , I'm totaly and completly stumped

Talked to my installer friend and he said probably blew the sub channel on the Blose amp. F-in sucks!!! Well I know what I will be doing this week end
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Radio works....I looked at every fuse and they are all good, except my CAGS fuse , I'm totaly and completly stumped

Talked to my installer friend and he said probably blew the sub channel on the Blose amp. F-in sucks!!! Well I know what I will be doing this week end
Well be careful what you listen to from that friend because he doesn't know the system..... The Blose subs are self-powered which means there's no channel for them in the Bose amp and you would have had to blow BOTH at the same time. That's why I immediately started thinking fuse. At this point I think you may want to see if you can't grab a pair of Bose subs from a forum member (sorry, already sold mine from my 06 and my 08Z is weeks away from getting to that) with a WTB thread in the Parts For Sale section. Swap 'em out and see if anything changes.
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Dude he knows a lot more than a lot of people. He has been doing installs for 15 years and owns his own shop. Plus we looked it up in his database and in fact the subs are powered by the Blose amp. We looked up the color codes and there is wires going to the amp from the subs. I seen the wiring schematic with my own eyes. We did not pop test the subs though, but he thinks the channels on the amp for the sub is blown. I never pushed these subs hard at all. The bass on my EQ on my HU was turned almost all the way down. I pulled every fuse out and inspected them. There is also only 1 fuse for the audio amp.

I'm still stumped and still going to install my components this week end
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Dude he knows a lot more than a lot of people. He has been doing installs for 15 years and owns his own shop. Plus we looked it up in his database and in fact the subs are powered by the Blose amp. We looked up the color codes and there is wires going to the amp from the subs. I seen the wiring schematic with my own eyes. We did not pop test the subs though, but he thinks the channels on the amp for the sub is blown. I never pushed these subs hard at all. The bass on my EQ on my HU was turned almost all the way down. I pulled every fuse out and inspected them. There is also only 1 fuse for the audio amp.

I'm still stumped and still going to install my components this week end
Being connected to and being driven by the Bose amp are ENTIRELY different things. Check out this picture of the Bose sub - see those fins? They are heat sinks for the amplifier that is built in. Your buddy may know car stereo installs but he's making an assumption. My only point was to be cautious about what you're told, particularly from installers that tend to make assumptions based on their experience, not to insult your buddy. The Vette's setup is VERY different from "normal" GM car stereo setups and it trips up most guys.

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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No worries dude I'm not easily offended

He told me he was not real sure and it statement started with "my guess would be....." LOL I have done installs with him and used to work at his shop. This is new to both of us. We have done a lot of Vette custom work and installs. Never had to deal with this Blose stuff as we would yank it out and install better equipment. I just want these damn things to work cause it drives me crazy with no mid and low end sound and I dont want to spend all day wiring this crap up ARGH!!

You have any suggestions? I know the subs are not blown. They just cant be I gave blown speakers and subs in my time and these cant be blown. Working one minute turn car off 10 minutes later power up and no subs!? Sounds like something else I just dont know where to look or even start.
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Originally Posted by hebdog7
Dude he knows a lot more than a lot of people. He has been doing installs for 15 years and owns his own shop. Plus we looked it up in his database and in fact the subs are powered by the Blose amp. We looked up the color codes and there is wires going to the amp from the subs. I seen the wiring schematic with my own eyes. We did not pop test the subs though, but he thinks the channels on the amp for the sub is blown. I never pushed these subs hard at all. The bass on my EQ on my HU was turned almost all the way down. I pulled every fuse out and inspected them. There is also only 1 fuse for the audio amp.

I'm still stumped and still going to install my components this week end
Chill dude. You come here asking questions and when one of the people here who knows the most about these cars answers you and you give him your buddy's credentials?? If he knows so much why ask here? Just curious. I mean after 15 years in the business you'd think he would have done at least one C6 install, no? Nothing against your buddy but posts like the above will keep you from getting help here.

Your most likely right in that the speakers are probably not blown in the traditional sense. Blown speakers typically make some sound that just sound like azz. I'm with The Komoman here, sounds like whatever circuit is powering the sub amps has a blown fuse. The amps might have just stopped working but the odds that both went at the same time is unlikely unless one was already out and just didn't notice it. I doubt there is a fuse on the speaker amp itself but you might want to check it out. Again, not likely both went at once but ya never know.

Oh, an I have seen the Bose subs out of the car....they do indeed have an amp attached directly to the speaker as Komoman said. If yours do not then you don't have the Bose system. Remember, the base system is not Bose but Delco and those subs do not have amps attached.
Good luck hunting down the issue.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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Chill dude. You come here asking questions and when one of the people here who knows the most about these cars answers you and you give him your buddy's credentials?? If he knows so much why ask here? Just curious. I mean after 15 years in the business you'd think he would have done at least one C6 install, no? Nothing against your buddy but posts like the above will keep you from getting help here.

Your most likely right in that the speakers are probably not blown in the traditional sense. Blown speakers typically make some sound that just sound like azz. I'm with The Komoman here, sounds like whatever circuit is powering the sub amps has a blown fuse. The amps might have just stopped working but the odds that both went at the same time is unlikely unless one was already out and just didn't notice it. I doubt there is a fuse on the speaker amp itself but you might want to check it out. Again, not likely both went at once but ya never know.

Oh, an I have seen the Bose subs out of the car....they do indeed have an amp attached directly to the speaker as Komoman said. If yours do not then you don't have the Bose system. Remember, the base system is not Bose but Delco and those subs do not have amps attached.
Good luck hunting down the issue.
Alright....first off the only one upset here seems to be you. I'm chill and have been hince my post before this one stating I'm not easily offended. Second I just wanted him to know that my "installer" was not some high school drop out working at Car Toys. I wanted him to know that he is credible. Third Im asking questions here cause we are both stumped as to the problem. Fourth as stated above we meaning me and my installer have done many installs on vettes to include the simple HU install to wild custom installs. My problem is something that we have not had to deal with as no one has brung their vette back stating this issue after a simple HU install. We have done many upon many vette installs.

No that all of that is out of the way can we be friends LOL?

They both were working when I exited the car. When I got back in they both did not work. I have a good ear and know both were working when I got out.

I just want to figure out the problem not create one on here. If anyone knows maybe where there could be a fuse for the sub amps to check that would be freaking awesome!
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Sure, we can be friends.

One more thing, I'm not upset at all....Ask my friends who have seen me upset and you'll understand. I was merely stating that the way you came across might put some people off that is all.

Back to your issue.....Do you have a voltmeter? You can buy a cheap one from Radio Shack for under 20 bucks. Attach the voltmeter to the speaker wire at the connector with the sub disconnected. Set the Voltmeter to DC and a low setting. Crank the system, if the voltmeter moves your issue is in the amp/speaker if not it is before it gets to the amp/speaker. If it works try to connect the voltmeter to the output of the amp. Same thing, if the voltmeter moves the issue is the driver if not it is the amp. You should be able to buy these subs on eBay fairly cheap. I also know a place that can get you these used if you need them. PM me and I'll let you know where you might find them.
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As I mentioned in my previous post, the power for the subs is the same circuit that powers the amp. If the amp is on, then the subs have power. The amp send a modified low level signal to the subs. It could be the amp is bad and is not sending out the signal.

Also, you might try setting the bass on the HU to it's highest setting.

Here is the schematic of the Bose.

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Ok thanks for all the help guys!! I figured out the problem and I fixed it! I got un-lazy and just installed my components

Now gotta get my sub box built and get that going sometime soon.

Again thanks to all that helped!!
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