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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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I went and looked at this car today and I'm considering it. It has been repainted and the numbers matching engine has been rebuilt.
What's to like: power steering, power brakes, power windows, A/C, and everything works. There's a bit of surface rust around and patina but it's clean and original looking under the dash. Underbody likewise is clean with a little patina here and there. It looks like a well cared for 70k mile car. Current owner will most likely part with it for low 30s.
What's not to like: Forty five year old car rattles, sounds like they're coming from door latches, etc. Not too much in the way of squeaks. Are latches adjustable or replaceable? Also, obviously, it's a drum brake car.















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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 01:47 AM
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Looks like a decent driver... but next time you post pics, first resize them to a reasonable size, say 800 pixels max dimension
(verrrry slow downloading and hard to view when they are 2 or three times larger than the browser window);
engine shots would help, too (looks like it probably has the base 250hp engine).

If it's not badly rusted at the frame rear wheel kick-ups, it might just be tired door weatherstripping that's allowing the latches to rattle
(the car was obviously repainted with the old weatherstrip left in place). The latch in the door is somewhat adjustable in all 4 directions
parallel to the door panel (loosen attaching bolts and slide, then re-tighten bolts) and in & out (with shims).
I think the latching posts are replaceable, too, if noticeably worn. Another possibility for the rattle might be the windows, perhaps
their weatherstrips or rollers are worn. You might be able to tell just by watching movement of the doors & windows, and/or jiggling them.

The frame/suspension appears to be in great condition, from what I can see from your pics. If I were looking at it, my only reservation might
be the automatic trans (you should assume you'll probably need to rebuild that before too long).

Hard to see how you could go very far wrong with an a/c car at that price,
so why not do it?

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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 02:13 AM
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I'll resize next time. The passenger door did have a little movement when I was holding onto it during our ride, so I bet the weather strips are worn. I think you're right. I'll make him an offer and see if I can't become a custodian of history...
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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Looks like a nice old car. Enjoy it if you buy it.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 02:31 AM
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Turns out my browser (Firefox) has a zoom-out capability that makes large pics
easier to view (Ctrl & - to reduce the page size)... but then, of course, you can't
read the verbiage :~)

Good luck!
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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I think it is OK, the photos are so huge I can't really tell. Good luck!
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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Cosmetically it looks very good except for the questionable fit of the left rear bumper that I noted in this downsized copy of your pic.

My '64 came equipped just like that car....PS, PW, PB, Powerglide, Factory Air....all the "luxury" options from that era. The car is my daily driver and is a pleasure to drive, although I've replaced the air with a modern aftermarket unit and also replaced the brakes with VB&P 4-wheel discs. The white car should be a pleasure to drive.

Check out the operation of the Neutral Safety Switch. First of all, make sure it is connected. Carefully try starting the car with the tranny in Reverse, Low and Drive....it should not start in any of those gears. If the NSS is missing or defective you can expect to pay several hundred dollar$ for a good one as 63-64 NSS's are not reproduced. But that should not be a deal killer. ( The NSS Rods are available from most vendors )

If the engine and drivetrain are in decent shape it sounds like a good car for the price.

And let me suggest that you go back and try to resize those pics while this thread is active, you might get more opinions on the car.


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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Low hp car with 80lb oil guage?
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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I am currently doing a frame off restoration on my 64 air/auto coupe. From the pictures the car looks to be in great condition and low 30's is a great price for a mid year a/c car. But, you should highly consider hiring someone "in the know" to inspect the car properly. It will be the best money you ever spent. Not only will you be able to make a decision with confidence, you will learn a lot about the car and what money, if any, you will need to invest to bring the car up to your standards.

Very few of these cars have escaped 40 years without getting tapped somewhere. Fiberglass repair is fairly easy to spot from underneath the car. Check the left, rear area where that bumper appears to be bent slightly. If the repair was done properly, I wouldn't worry too much about it. The rest of the lines and gaps look really good from the pictures. There is a bolt (or something) protruding just below the radio. I'm not sure what that is but it shouldn't be there.

I am intimately familiar with 64 auto/air coupes. If you have any specific numbers questions feel free to PM or, better yet, email me. It's too bad we're not closer. I would love to see the car in person. If the car is what it appears to be in the pictures, I would not hesitate to purchase this car for the low 30's.

Remember, the car won't be perfect. They all require something. You just have to decide what you can live with and what you can't.
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You can see the value of having extra eyes looking at this even on the CF. I strongly suggest you take someone else knowledgable about C-2/'64 and get the car up in the air etc. It will be time and effort well spent. Good luck, it looks like a nice driver, but check it somemore. Dennis
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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80lb. oil gauge is correct for all 64 engines. 60lb. gauges were used through most of 63 but were changed to 80lb. late in the MY. All 64's were 80lb.
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Originally Posted by jprop
80lb. oil gauge is correct for all 64 engines. 60lb. gauges were used through most of 63 but were changed to 80lb. late in the MY. All 64's were 80lb.
Thanks, i did'nt know that. My opinion then is that this is a nice driver quality car and a pretty good buy.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jprop
But, you should highly consider hiring someone "in the know" to inspect the car properly. It will be the best money you ever spent. Not only will you be able to make a decision with confidence, you will learn a lot about the car and what money, if any, you will need to invest to bring the car up to your standards.
I would love to, but I don't know who to call to get it done in a timely fashion.
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Originally Posted by Canute
I would love to, but I don't know who to call to get it done in a timely fashion.
Perhaps you could start another thread here where the title requests an inspection in the specific city the car is located in. It seems that most threads of this sort get responses from forum members that are willing to help.

From the photos and information you have posted, it seems like a nice car for the money. About 18 months ago, I bought a '64 roadster with Powerglide, but no A/C and paid a similar price for it. Ours is also a matching numbers car, but has not had any restoration (ie: no fresh paint or rebuilt engine as yours does). Considering the fresh paint, A/C and the rebuit engine, I think the car represents a good value if the inspection does not uncover any major issues.

If you could not find someone to inspect the car for you, getting the car up on a rack and getting some detailed photos of the undercarriage would help folks here assess the car's condition for you.

Good luck with it - I hope you are able to get it inspected and make a deal. I think '64's are , but I'm biased...

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Canute,
That is either my old '64 coupe or it's twin (how many white/black, auto, full power with A/C '64 coupes are there in California?). It was a great driver but had a replacement nose so look closely! No matter what, a nice A/C car for the low 30's is a great deal.
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Buy it.
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Buy it.
I agree.
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nice car, and great options. Before I too jump on the "buy it" bandwagon, I'd strongly urge you to do your best to look at the birdcage in the areas of the windshield corners - I know of more than one "pretty car" that had some serious, undisclosed rust "cancer" going on there. I would also urge you to take steps to confirm the seller's claim that this car has its original engine (or maybe it is simply "numbers matching" without being original?)
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Put up a post on www.ncrs.org and get someone who really knows midyears to come look at the car with you.

You're spending $30K. Spend another $500 to make sure you're not buying a liability.

On the surface, looks like a great car.
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If you do get it, don't touch the A/C decal. It's valuable. Bill.
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