383 stroker
Le Mans Master
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From: Lake Wylie SC
Ken
First I say congratulations........ IMO the phrase "to much motor" is an oxymoron and also the word "streetable" is strictly a matter of opinion.
What intake comes with it?
What carb are you going to use?
Got headers?
What do you have under the side pipe covers....... those chambered exhaust pipes combined with the extra bends that side pipes have are real HP robbers if they are not overcome...... to the tune of 10% gross HP
I like 383 motors but a purebred motor takes a bigger negative hit from what they are suppose to be when something in the system is out of sync with the other components than a "normal" motor does.
IMO it is all just a matter of preperation and you making sure everything compliments everything else ....... and when side pipes are involved that takes a bit of work.
Doug
First I say congratulations........ IMO the phrase "to much motor" is an oxymoron and also the word "streetable" is strictly a matter of opinion.
What intake comes with it?
What carb are you going to use?
Got headers?
What do you have under the side pipe covers....... those chambered exhaust pipes combined with the extra bends that side pipes have are real HP robbers if they are not overcome...... to the tune of 10% gross HP
I like 383 motors but a purebred motor takes a bigger negative hit from what they are suppose to be when something in the system is out of sync with the other components than a "normal" motor does.
IMO it is all just a matter of preperation and you making sure everything compliments everything else ....... and when side pipes are involved that takes a bit of work.
Doug
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Le Mans Master
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From: Rocklin California
Well, got tired of trying to build a correct 327/365, then got tired of trying to build a 383 to look like a 327/365, then got tired of trying to buy a short block and build my 461 heads, then just got tired so ordered a almost turnkey 383 that is being built by T&L Engines. It's the 440 HP, 465 TQ they build, dyno, and I added their 750 HO Holley with mechanical secondaries VS Vacuum. Also have the Air Gap intake, Dart Pro 1 Platinum 200cc Aluminum heads. Comp Roller 230/236 @ .050, .544/.555 lift with 1.6 rockers. I figured they build motors for a living so they will have the correct parts. Also went with the 4 bolt mains and 1 piece rear seal. You can check it on their web site. It's the 383 A-3 aluminum.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Rocklin California
Ken
First I say congratulations........ IMO the phrase "to much motor" is an oxymoron and also the word "streetable" is strictly a matter of opinion.
What intake comes with it?
What carb are you going to use?
Got headers?
What do you have under the side pipe covers....... those chambered exhaust pipes combined with the extra bends that side pipes have are real HP robbers if they are not overcome...... to the tune of 10% gross HP
I like 383 motors but a purebred motor takes a bigger negative hit from what they are suppose to be when something in the system is out of sync with the other components than a "normal" motor does.
IMO it is all just a matter of preperation and you making sure everything compliments everything else ....... and when side pipes are involved that takes a bit of work.
Doug
First I say congratulations........ IMO the phrase "to much motor" is an oxymoron and also the word "streetable" is strictly a matter of opinion.
What intake comes with it?
What carb are you going to use?
Got headers?
What do you have under the side pipe covers....... those chambered exhaust pipes combined with the extra bends that side pipes have are real HP robbers if they are not overcome...... to the tune of 10% gross HP
I like 383 motors but a purebred motor takes a bigger negative hit from what they are suppose to be when something in the system is out of sync with the other components than a "normal" motor does.
IMO it is all just a matter of preperation and you making sure everything compliments everything else ....... and when side pipes are involved that takes a bit of work.
Doug
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Le Mans Master
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From: Rocklin California
With the 750HO Holley, 8" balancer, crate and delivery, $4700. 
Decided to go with a New Holley street avenger 770cfm. So cost was only $4300. I shipped the Holley to them so they could dyno it with my carb.
Decided to go with a New Holley street avenger 770cfm. So cost was only $4300. I shipped the Holley to them so they could dyno it with my carb.
Last edited by Kensmith; Apr 17, 2009 at 02:27 PM.
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Le Mans Master
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Drifting
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From: Allen Park Mi
are you selling your original numbers matching parts for the car?
or are those spare parts that you bought to make it numbers matching.
eitherway, you might consider keeping.
those parts will be worth their weight in gold to the next owner.
even if you don't care.
just my opinion.
but you will LOVE that 383
A
or are those spare parts that you bought to make it numbers matching.
eitherway, you might consider keeping.
those parts will be worth their weight in gold to the next owner.
even if you don't care.
just my opinion.
but you will LOVE that 383
A
Drifting
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From: Corrales NM
Ken, you are my hero Absolutely the type of engine I would put into my car if my existing one was to give birth. I agree with your logic and with your results. That car should be a thrill ride when you are done. Congrats.
Absolutely the type of engine I would put into my car if my existing one was to give birth. I agree with your logic and with your results. That car should be a thrill ride when you are done. Congrats.
Burning Brakes
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From: Seattle area, WA (On the Eastside)
We're gonna have to race at the next Corvette drags in Sac this summer. Your engine looks like a monster, but then again, mine is Frankensteined together and I'm looking forward to feeling how it performs. I spun a bearing in my old 350, so I had to do the 383. Why are you getting rid of your LT1?
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Pro
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From: Dacula GA
T&L Engines
Well, got tired of trying to build a correct 327/365, then got tired of trying to build a 383 to look like a 327/365, then got tired of trying to buy a short block and build my 461 heads, then just got tired so ordered a almost turnkey 383 that is being built by T&L Engines. It's the 440 HP, 465 TQ they build, dyno, and I added their 750 HO Holley with mechanical secondaries VS Vacuum. Also have the Air Gap intake, Dart Pro 1 Platinum 200cc Aluminum heads. Comp Roller 230/236 @ .050, .544/.555 lift with 1.6 rockers. I figured they build motors for a living so they will have the correct parts. Also went with the 4 bolt mains and 1 piece rear seal. You can check it on their web site. It's the 383 A-3 aluminum.
Pro
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From: Manteo NC
Great price. Hope you drive train is up to par for all that. I just blew my 4.11 with the 350 I built. Replaced it with 3.55 and going to 60 series tires. I was having fun there for a while. I'll wait til 2nd gear now, I can't afford that much fun too many times.
Enjoy your motor Ken..!!
Enjoy your motor Ken..!!
Drifting
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From: california
T&L engines
hi astrodokk, if ken bought his 383 stroker from the same T&L i think he did, he probably won't be racing you this summer.
kensmith, i havn't met you yet but dokk says your a cool guy, just for your info, here is a thread about T&L (if it is the same outfit) on another website i belong to. draw your own conclusions and read it all:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/anyb...nt-151785.html
kensmith, i havn't met you yet but dokk says your a cool guy, just for your info, here is a thread about T&L (if it is the same outfit) on another website i belong to. draw your own conclusions and read it all:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/anyb...nt-151785.html
Le Mans Master
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From: Lake Wylie SC
But then if like Ken you are not using headers to start with then all you will notice is the gains through the as/is bigger motor install and not have to deal with all the hassles that always show up with headers (and the noise).
Just do not fall for the claims made by the "extrudahone" folks that will gladly take lots of money for something that will never be of any benefit to you.
Doug
Last edited by Shurshot; Apr 4, 2009 at 08:19 AM.
Le Mans Master
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From: Lake Wylie SC
hi astrodokk, if ken bought his 383 stroker from the same T&L i think he did, he probably won't be racing you this summer.
kensmith, i havn't met you yet but dokk says your a cool guy, just for your info, here is a thread about T&L (if it is the same outfit) on another website i belong to. draw your own conclusions and read it all:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/anyb...nt-151785.html
kensmith, i havn't met you yet but dokk says your a cool guy, just for your info, here is a thread about T&L (if it is the same outfit) on another website i belong to. draw your own conclusions and read it all:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/anyb...nt-151785.html
I noticed that some of those posts on that thread were rather recent.
Because they are somewhat close to me I was talking about them with a friend who builds motors for a living....... he can't see how they turn a profit if T&L is having to pay the same wholesale costs for parts that he is.
Either they have a extraordinary direct relationship with a lot of manufactures or there is another reason as to how they are turning a profit at prices so much lower than everyone else.
Doug