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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Someone told me once that each car will start with a certain #of points and then they are subtracted and added to arrive at the final score.I have no clue how the judging works, probably obviously. How are top flights judged?. Thanks.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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In a small nutshell: You start with 4500 points and it goes down from there. There will be a chassis section & judges, exterior section & judges, interior section & judges, mechanical section & more judges. Before any of the sectional judging takes place your trim tag is carefully scrutinized, and a team leader signs off saying it's good to go, and if not, a second flight is the best you will do. etc...............
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Originally Posted by jbalch
Before any of the sectional judging takes place your trim tag is carefully scrutinized, and a team leader signs off saying it's good to go, and if not, a second flight is the best you will do. etc...............
This depends on which generation of car is being judged and at what level of event.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Remember you can pick up 9 bonus points, or more. Fire ext within arms reach, NCRS decal on vent window (do not cover date code) and a battery disconnect. I believe you also get points if you drive your car to the event. Bill.
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Originally Posted by bonehead2
Someone told me once that each car will start with a certain #of points and then they are subtracted and added to arrive at the final score.I have no clue how the judging works, probably obviously. How are top flights judged?. Thanks.
If you order the "Corvette Judging Reference Manual" from the NCRS on-line store (www.ncrs.org), it explains everything you need to know about the judging process.

You can also join the NCRS on-line at that site; then join your local chapter, where all the folks are who can help you.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Does NCRS charge to judge a car?

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Does NCRS charge to judge a car?

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Oh yeah, having your car judged at the various levels is not free.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Does NCRS charge to judge a car?

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Sort of. There is a fee to attend an NCRS meet. That fee is used to defray the cost of the location and administration of the event, which typically break even at best and lose money at worst. Everyone who attends (including judges) pay this fee. These meets are the only place cars are judged. There is an additional fee for members who have a car judged. Again, this money is used to pay for the meet, since the judging of cars is the main reason for the meet in the first place. The fees are very reasonable considering how expensive it can be to rent an auditorium or convention center for 2-4 days.
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NCRS is the best game in town for determining a correct original Corvette when judged . That means as it left the factory (New and clean) . People wont to get as high a point count as possible to 100 , ( bragging rights) that's the reason 99% of Corvettes are Trailered that show up at NCRS meets. My problem is if you enjoy driving your Corvette as I do there is no way to compete even tho it may be 100% correct . Most points are lost for road dirt and wear, yes it can get a top flight but never close to 100 points that many people try for and get. Those Corvettes get the ooos and haaa's while driven Corvette are looked at as used cars.
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Yes as detailed above, but you have to be a member of NCRS to start with.
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It's an entire year away now, but how many points are deducted for an entire incorrect chassis?

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Originally Posted by 1955 copper
NCRS is the best game in town for determining a correct original Corvette when judged . That means as it left the factory (New and clean) . People wont to get as high a point count as possible to 100 , ( bragging rights) that's the reason 99% of Corvettes are Trailered that show up at NCRS meets. My problem is if you enjoy driving your Corvette as I do there is no way to compete even tho it may be 100% correct . Most points are lost for road dirt and wear, yes it can get a top flight but never close to 100 points that many people try for and get. Those Corvettes get the ooos and haaa's while driven Corvette are looked at as used cars.
Boy, that doesn't sound fair at allIs top flight possible driving in your car to a meet?. John thanks, I will order some books.
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Originally Posted by 1955 copper
My problem is if you enjoy driving your Corvette as I do there is no way to compete even tho it may be 100% correct . Most points are lost for road dirt and wear, yes it can get a top flight but never close to 100 points
It's not a competition Roy. No one is competing against anyone else. Car are evaluated on their own merits and without regard to any car other that may be present. There are no 'best of show' awards. Scores are released only to the owner. A Top Flight earned because the owner drove to the meet and got points for that is just as good as a Top Flight for a trailered car.

You know all of this, so why stir the sh*t?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Yes as detailed above, but you have to be a member of NCRS to start with.
I'm a member but there are not many ncrs meets up here where i live...


What classification would my car be judged in.... i have non orignal motor/trans/tires wheels/frame is pwdr coated/added power brakes..i put everything else back to original as i could



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Boy, that doesn't sound fair at allIs top flight possible driving in your car to a meet?. John thanks, I will order some books.
Not sure why Roy has gone on one of his rants (yet again) but let me assure you he's way off base. The majority of cars that have earned a Top Flight award have been driven to the meet, and then home again. The judging system incorporates a generous points 'bonus'* to encourage people to drive them. It's not unusual to see a car 'bump' from a Second Flight (still an admirable award) to Top Flight solely due to the driving miles bonus.

There's always a wash stand available to clean off the road grime on a car prior to placing it on the judging field. Even then, deductions for minor dust and dirt are negligible. This is not a show and shine where a pebble caught in the tire tread will induce heart seizure.

*" mileage points are added to raw score at the rate of 45 per 100 miles driven, up to 10% of your raw score maximum. The car must score at least 75% to be eligible for these points."
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Originally Posted by 66jack
What classification would my car be judged in.... i have non orignal motor/trans/tires wheels/frame is pwdr coated/added power brakes..i put everything else back to original as i could

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Flight Judging is where all cars start off. Unrestored cars can pursue a Bowtie Award, the evaluation of these are done at National meets only.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
It's not a competition Roy. No one is competing against anyone else. Car are evaluated on their own merits and without regard to any car other that may be present. There are no 'best of show' awards. Scores are released only to the owner. A Top Flight earned because the owner drove to the meet and got points for that is just as good as a Top Flight for a trailered car.

You know all of this, so why stir the sh*t?
No! your reading me wrong I'm not complaining as most people take me. NCRS is fair, but you cant say most owners that trailer ant trying to reach a100 point Certificate ( nothing wrong with that). Right a driven Corvette can get a top flight like I said , but it cant get as close to 100 points being driven. (that's my point) weather good or bad. Most people gravitate to a Trailered top flight 99 point certified Corvette then a driven one that shows dirt and grease with all the over spray paint worn off. I dont call that stiring the sh*t.
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It's an entire year away now, but how many points are deducted for an entire incorrect chassis?

Man that looks nice, if it is too much off I will trade even with you.
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Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick
It's an entire year away now, but how many points are deducted for an entire incorrect chassis?

Don't even bother with flight judging. You would be very disappointed with your score. :o
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..........trying to reach a100 point Certificate .......... Most people gravitate to a Trailered top flight 99 point certified Corvette then a driven one that shows dirt and grease with all the over spray paint worn off.
There is no such thing as a 100 point certificate, or any certificate with points on it.

I think you're referring to one car that been accurately restored and kept in good condition versus a 'driver' that's in need of some simple TLC.

Apples and oranges.

Edit: what was that quote earlier today about wrestling with a skunk? LOL

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